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Any other Hypno Fetishests here?

It's an interesting idea for sure. I had a message from a seemingly nice person on here, who sent me a non-sexual track they'd done, which was nice and so on - but ... I caught the end of the recording in a more awake state, where a suggested reaction to a phrase was made, before they talked Read more… through the final "wake up" call. .... I didn't like that. It felt a little like it could be used to control someone when they least expected it, kind of thing.... especially as no mention of such a suggestion, was made, when the offer to provide the recording was made. I'm sure it was done innocently enough - but as trust is a HUGE issue for me right now (so maybe that's why I felt a bit off about it) - it could be that my opinion is not really valid.

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What Is Wrong With Me? - Confused About Actions And Feelings

Hi,
Thanks for all your replies. I thought I would give an update, since I posted on the 6th September 2021, as there has been a bit of a turn of events.
On the 12th September 2021, in the early evening, my phone rang - it was him... I debated on whether to answer, just staring at his name, and Read more… eventually, it clicked over to voicemail. It was a little unusually because he'd never really let it get to voicemail before. After the message was done, I listened to the message... and I honestly was surprised. It was a female voice! Obviously close - but I felt instinctively that it was not a partner, or wife - we talk waaaayyyy too much for that to be possible, and at all times of the day and night... but it was a woman, and I'm guessing similar in age - even though I don't know his age. She didn't realise the voicemail was running and she said "yea I didn't know how to turn it off on this new phone, and someone's speaking on there..." he replied in high pitched shock "Who???", took the phone and switched it off. The shock in his voice amused me. And the emotions wasn't one of betrayal, but like I'd got a snatch of his "real life". ... I decided to wait before bringing it up. I had fits of amusement, thinking how he must be feeling at wondering if I had actually had a chat with the female on the voicemail. I had visions of him being really worried. It amused me intensely.
He called that night of course - and I bided my time. I couldn't sleep. I kept giggling over it. Like - what is wrong with me - that's hardly normal!
Anyway - The next day, I had a chat with him. He was audibly on edge. He still doesn't know it was just a voicemail. He said it wasn't a wife, or partner, but a relative - I asked in what way - he refused to tell me. He asked if I thought he was cheating on me - and honestly - I know he isn't... afterall - we're hardly "together". ... But I couldn't even yell or get mad. I was just sad. I talked - I cried - hard - he listened. I bought up things from way back - about going through the grief when he vanished for over a year - I talked of the isolation, of people not understanding why I have spent 20 years of my life hanging onto his every word, and so on, and not being able to talk to anyone about the *** of that Grief - because of not knowing anything about him. I talked about the missing ads I placed - and asked him about the woman, who's name he has called me more often lately. All he said of that, was that she was someone in his life who was very special, and now she isn't in his life any more. I asked what happened - he said firmly "No. I'm not going there with you". He refused to answer a lot of my questions, and frustrations - and just listened.. barely breathing. I cried, and sniffed, and sobbed, and whined "Why??? I don't understand, why you can't tell me about you!"... He remained silent. He said he lived in a house with a Blue door - drives a Blue car.... and that was about it. I talked about how unsettled I am. How uncomfortable I feel, and how I don't know how to process it... because ... what happened - was not real. I talked about how he's locked me into a corner, where I can't talk to people about it - because he won't tell me anything about him. He remained silent - just listening.
When I finished crying so heavily - he apologised. He gave no explanation, or comment, on why he carried on - knowing I was not able to give consent - and had said no. The call ended shortly after.
He rang back the next night and he asked if I was ok. I said no. We talked about chit chat - and then parted ways.
The next few nights I didn't answer his calls. The next few weeks became busy, needing several late night admin stuff on the computer, so when he rang - I was very "Business like" and distracted - on the couple of occassions he called. The Butterflies I have felt, every single call in all these years... are weakening, and dying. I feel empty and lost. If he tried anything on - I changed the topic, and refused to engage. I actually don't want him "touching" me. I just want to snuggle up to someone and be held, but my trust is gone. I still don't know how to stabilise or make sense of any of it.
Then last night.... He called - and I chatted, recognising the dying feelings, and I felt sad... but we chatted about day stuff... and he kept trying to engage a more intimate act... I didn't. And then he asked a question... "Do you want to play?"... I snapped back loudly "NO!". He fell silent. I was proud of myself for telling him so loudly and firmly. He remained silent a while - I could practically hear his jaw, hit the floor.... and after a pause of silence - with the word, hanging between us ominously - he softly said he hears me. And it was loud and clear. We talked. I told him I don't understand what's happening - but I don't want any type of that kind of thing. I told him "I can't - I just can't do it, and I don't want it". He was clearly sad. He apologised sincerely that he hurt me. I didn't answer. He asked if I will ever be "fixed". He apologised for using that phrase, but he didn't know how to say it any other way. Deep down - he was asking if "we" were over. I heard the *** rip through him in those few words. I told him honestly "I don't know". But I look at everything and thing "where we ever really a "we" anyway?". He apologised again for hurting me. I told him, that I know he's a man who needs sex - and that if he wants it - he should seek it elsewhere. I told him I'd be happy to chat - but no intimacy... but I get that, that might not work for him. That I'm just to lost and confused right now.
He tried to lighten the mood, and I didn't play along - he talked about a colour and material... hinting - wanting me to tell him about some sexy lingerie I may be wearing.... I refused to engage. I know he was hurting - but I am too. I've been a fool over this man, for 20 years of my life, and then this......
We parted company and I ;ay there thinking - this can't be it for me.... not like this.... I NEED to sort my head out. I emailed a private Sex Therapist for a price list - not that I'll be able to afford it, but I have to help myself if I want to level off... it's been nearly a Month, afterall, and the situation is entirely ridiculous. I probably need professional help. I warned the Therapist that it's not a normal situation and I probably should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act! lol. I hope to be able to get some kind of resolve, with professional help... because clearly I can't get to a point of understand what the heck is going on in life.
I fell asleep after emailing the Therapist, and and putting a YouTube ASMR video on to try and block out the thoughts - while honestly feeling, just gut achingly sad, and still lost, and very confused, and uncomfortable... and like I've lost trust in everything - I can't even cry over it, and I am irritable and cynical about everything right now. It's not a good way to be.
Today I had a powerful meeting, where I had to be the strong, independent, in control of things, powerful, woman I have to be for what I do .... I was glad when the "enemy" didn't show... but I was left feeling a little deflated as I wanted the fight too. By the evening - I just felt drained and heavy.
He rang again tonight, not so long ago, but I was talking to my Dad. I never answered his call, or rang "my guy" back. I just don't know what to say to him any more - because he won't give me anything of his "real personal life" to work with. I so wish I didn't feel like this, though, even though I know (thanks to kind advice here) that this is very far from a healthy relationship, with him...... But I truly wish, that I could just change the way I'm feeling, to be a little more stable, at the very least.
Thanks to everyone who has had the patience to read my waffle, and post here, or message me. Your opinions have been invaluable. I am truly grateful.
Thank you so very much. :)

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What Is Wrong With Me? - Confused About Actions And Feelings
So firstly, I apologise if this is in the wrong place. .... and for the stupid long length (I have Aspergers and I can't summerise to save my life)... I'm so ilsolated over these issues - I feel I need\want to talk about things, but don't know where to go, where I won't be judged, because my Read more…situation isn't normal, and I'm not even sure what's happening. Maybe I'm just nuts. I just don't know any more. ....... I also apologise for this super long and rambley post - but I literally have nobody to talk to about this with.
BACKGROUND (the area of concern/problem is below):
Years ago (2004) I met a guy on a phone chatline. We've been speaking most nights ever since. He's older than me, and a lot more experienced, and takes the lead in any intimacy we have. He is not a dominate\master, but he takes the lead, and he has always been more dominant.
The weird part is - we've never met, even though I've tried, and I know practically nothing about him - even though I've tried asking him, and I don't even know basics, like full name, or what he looks like, or even his birth month... and he's made it clear that no-one knows about me in his off-phone World (it hurts if I dwell on it, but what can I do)... and while, on one side, it sometimes hurts me, because I can't do normal things couple's do - my life, as a full time carer for my now elderly parents, who are also sociopathic ***rs, (meaning I've been forbidden to have any relationships that might lead to something, in case they lose me) - isn't condusive to anything other than a telephone relationship, and well... it has worked for us, all these years. Please don't judge me for this. It's so hard explaining this long distance relationship as it is. My friends and family know about him - and they tell me I'm stupid... and I know it's mental... but I felt a connection from day 1, and I've got strong feelings for this guy, that are probably not reciprocated, but he's put up with me all these years, anyway.
Anyway - intimacy: He literally educated me, and showed me that it was ok to be sexual, and to engage that way (on the phone). He's told me, that if I find someone to do things with, I should do that (hated him saying it... sobbed over it in fact, because it felt like rejection, but what he was actually meaning back then, was that he'd never let me see him, or meet him, due to his own perceptions of himself, and our age gap, I guess - who knows).
He encouraged me to read lots, and watch lots, and learn and explore, and from the naive woman I was, who everyone considered, was A-Sexual, and who couldn't even say common slang for basic anatomy, lol, I've grown into someone who relishes my sexuality (even though it's only been with him), finds sex pyschologically fascinating, has learned I am a Demi and Sapio-sexual, am more inclined to be submissive, and I look forward to my time with him, and gets totally and fully submersed in all we do together, ... even if it is only on the phone.
We have a lot of phone sex. And the feelings are so strong when we do it, I've experienced such highs - where I'm literally begging and pleading for relief, panting for air, and on the flip side, such deep lows - that I've learned are Subdrops - over which he has just left me just as I topple over the edge - or just after - and I sob my heart out. He can make me feel things I never thought was possible, and it's amazing... to me. And this worked for years... and then I started getting sick.
THE PROBLEM:
I was too tired to play. I got really bad depression, and began to lean on him - he became almost my therapist, upon whom, the moment I'd finished dumping my woes on him, I fell asleep so fast it is unreal.... My Mother developed Dementia, and I was a sole Carer for her. She injured me unintentionally, and it was stressful, heartbreaking, exhausting, and so on. Then my Neighbours started being abusive, injured my Mother, and she ended up in a Nursing Home... and then Covid Lockdown hit. Things went from bad to worse, and I had to go to Court to prove that the neighbours were not going to attack her (they'd moved on to physically ***ing me instead, because they want to drive us out and take our house), and the damage they caused to my house, was not a danger to her, just so we could bring her home... unfortunately, while prevented from seeing her, because of lockdown - the Nursing Home, starved and dehydrated her to death. I had 6 days notice, and finally we were allowed to see her, and I refused to leave - it was too late to save her, and she died, thankfully peacefully, but literally in my Arms, on 21st Jan 2021. They killed her in just over 5 weeks. I was 3 weeks from getting her home. The shock obviously has devastated me. I'm a wreck. ...And as always I shared with this phone guy. .... He listened, and was lovely.... and later.... I was shocked when he tried to instigate sex. I said no... but not firm enough, and in the end, I hung up.
We (my family) had a lot of problems, due to the length of the Coroner's investigation, instigated at my request, the report, the reality of being told what she died of (which we knew, but there it was in black and white) and so on.... then we were conned out of £2,000 by someone who said they'd help with the Funeral and on and on.... and all the time he was there - but I didn't feel like intimacy, just needed comfort, and when he tried to instigate - frequently - I made excuses and ended the call. ... It happened so much - that I messaged him - told him how I was feeling, and said I'm just not in the right headspace. I apologised.
In April - on the evening after her Funeral - that went wrong because of the conman - I was so lost - especially as they couldn't cremate that day, so were doing it the next day, meaning I had/wanted to go back, until it was done - so the *** carried on. It wasn't closure as everyone kept telling me it would be, but reopened the wounds further... and I sobbed to him that night. When he started instigating.. I said no... but he carried on and on and I found myself not wanting it - but getting caught in the undertow - not speaking - and when he finished - he hung up - I rolled over and howl sobbed. I know this sounds extreme but I felt hurt and violated.
A month later, I was sooo tired and ill and on ***killers and was hazy - and told him that - he tried to instigate again.... I hung up. I sent another text message saying I don't want it, and it hurts emotionally, and I'd tell him when I was ready.
In June, my Cat jumped on my face, and I needed dental surgery that went on to fractured my Palate and Jaw (I can't catch a break)... and he was AMAZING and supportive and kind and didn't attempt anything. My trust started returning.
And then ... a few weeks ago - I had a massive health blip and I was on serious ***. I was basically off my head.... I told him that. ... I was acting like a drunk person. My Dad heard me talking to him, from the next room, and I definitely kept apologising, and saying I didn't feel right, and that I was on medication. ..... And he started trying it on. I know I moaned, as I fought through the haze - and I mumbled that I didn't want to , but he kept on.... and suddenly my Dad came in the room, and he snatched the phone away from me, hung up and told me off. .... He gave me the phone back the next day, and he'd texted him, on my phone that he knew what was being discussed, and that it wasn't appropriate. I was mortified... I am actually 46 years old - not some wreckless ***! ..... But at the same time I felt deeply disturbed by the fact that I'd said no, and he carried on.... and it's been 3 times in all these years - all since my Mother died. ....... And I am sooo confused and uncomfortable. He knows how real it all feels to me, when we do things.... so why carry on, when I said no? ... and then I feel ridiculous because its on the phone too.... and it's doing my head in. Is it my fault? .... Am I being melodramatic?
I couldn't speak to him for ages. I sent him a text explaining how I felt. Saying I do not want intimacy with him right now. It hurts.... and because of this - I feel different about him. Uncomfortable. I don't know how to get over it.
And then the other night.... I decided to talk to him again. I made sure there was no way it would head into any intimate territory, but I said I wanted to have a discussion about it. We ended up not speaking about it, but no intimacy happened. I was grateful. .... 2 days passed before we talked again, and now I'm more confused than ever. We had a great afternoon together, watching tv together, on the phone for a few hours, said goodbye. I felt calm and happy. It was lovely.
And in the evening we again, we chatted... and then I noticed his breathing change and his suggestions were....getting more heated. I did NOT want to engage. I don't have the trust. I am stuff very confused and lost over it all.... ... and I don't why I did this - but I asked if he was 'excited'. Of course he was. .... And I instantly felt annoyed/angry maybe ... I don't know... I started encouraging him to touch himself - but not letting him 'touch me'. I told him with a definite angry face on (even though he was on the phone) and gritted teeth, that I was in control. I told him what I was doing (i wasn't actually doing anything), and when he said he'd remove my hand from myself - I said firmly - NO! - and carried on firmly instructing him. I also wanted to errr... 'finish' him off", so he'd go. .... I hated the feelings I was having, and the more I talked, the more I wouldn't let him do anything other than my instruction, talking over him, and raising my voice when I said "NO!" to his suggestions.
In the end, he faked it. That annoyed me too - and then he said, amid faked breathing heavy, "That was unkind", and it was like a slap in the face to me - my 'in control' feeling left me instantly, I felt worried, upset I'd perhaps hurt him, and I told him that I was holding him - I said sorry repeatedly and asked seriously if he was ok (and that confused me too) - and he said he deserved it - but I felt/feel totally terrible. and sooo confused, and like our connection has gone.... He was still 'excited' of course, and I felt so bad, I asked if he wanted to engage more... of course he said yes - I'm a total idiot - I didn't want to do anything - but I felt bad for being 'unkind'. If anything (I didn't want anything else, to be honest) - to me - the next step I wanted was slow, gentle, loving.... but I wanted the control.... but then he asked if i wanted 'F-king' ... NO!!!! No I do NOT! - to me that is just a means to an end, not connected ..... but I said yes.... and he took control, and I hated it. I faked it to make it end. I think he faked it eventually too. I feel so ... yucky ... and I don't understand my inital actions, I don't understand these feelings and the confusion, and the thoughts, because I'm just not that experienced... and afterall - it's all on the phone - it shouldn't have this much impact, should it?
Honestly - I'm so off kilter today - I don't know who to talk to about it - .... who might understand what is going on here.... because honestly - I am a stupid girl for feeling this way - for engaging when I did the other day, when I didn't want to, and so on. ..... afterall - it's all on the phone.... Ack! What is wrong with me?
Any thoughts are gratefully accepted - even if it's to tell me I'm being utterly stupid.
Thanks for "listening", and sorry it's so long.
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WolfeWitche
WolfeWitche @PumpkinFlower You can do this flower....
That *** and anger you feel? It's normal... what you felt was real. Harness that, use it.
Having been through a very similar experience I can almost guarantee that he is, in fact, married. I (to my shame) knew my snake was married. We would chat for hours Read more… daily, at all hours. The fact you speak at odd hours, at length, doesn't prove he's not married.
I'd bet you're not the first, nor the last and I'd be surprised if it's just you he's using.
It's not easy letting go. Even of a toxic, manipulative snake. Not when you gave them your heart.
I've had zero contact with the snake (I refuse to call him a man) for a year now and I'm not gonna lie, I miss him... or rather what I thought I had but it was a lie. He was a lie... hold on to how you felt but don't hang on to him. You really do deserve better xx
LikemanchesterHC, Leisa · 30.09.2021 16:26:03
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Strengan Because, however unreasonable his behaviour was, you had an intimate relationship with him which involved both emotional and sexual exchanges you are bound to feel the loss. This is entirely normal but it will ebb with time. Any sincere (on your part at least) relationship will provoke such Read more… feelings when it ends. I think you are doing well and you only need to ride it out but of course if you feel you need professional help you have that option. See how you feel in a weeks time perhaps and I will look out for any updates. Take care.
Like · 30.09.2021 15:44:39
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PumpkinFlower Hi,
Thanks for all your replies. I thought I would give an update, since I posted on the 6th September 2021, as there has been a bit of a turn of events.
On the 12th September 2021, in the early evening, my phone rang - it was him... I debated on whether to answer, just staring at his name, and Read more… eventually, it clicked over to voicemail. It was a little unusually because he'd never really let it get to voicemail before. After the message was done, I listened to the message... and I honestly was surprised. It was a female voice! Obviously close - but I felt instinctively that it was not a partner, or wife - we talk waaaayyyy too much for that to be possible, and at all times of the day and night... but it was a woman, and I'm guessing similar in age - even though I don't know his age. She didn't realise the voicemail was running and she said "yea I didn't know how to turn it off on this new phone, and someone's speaking on there..." he replied in high pitched shock "Who???", took the phone and switched it off. The shock in his voice amused me. And the emotions wasn't one of betrayal, but like I'd got a snatch of his "real life". ... I decided to wait before bringing it up. I had fits of amusement, thinking how he must be feeling at wondering if I had actually had a chat with the female on the voicemail. I had visions of him being really worried. It amused me intensely.
He called that night of course - and I bided my time. I couldn't sleep. I kept giggling over it. Like - what is wrong with me - that's hardly normal!
Anyway - The next day, I had a chat with him. He was audibly on edge. He still doesn't know it was just a voicemail. He said it wasn't a wife, or partner, but a relative - I asked in what way - he refused to tell me. He asked if I thought he was cheating on me - and honestly - I know he isn't... afterall - we're hardly "together". ... But I couldn't even yell or get mad. I was just sad. I talked - I cried - hard - he listened. I bought up things from way back - about going through the grief when he vanished for over a year - I talked of the isolation, of people not understanding why I have spent 20 years of my life hanging onto his every word, and so on, and not being able to talk to anyone about the *** of that Grief - because of not knowing anything about him. I talked about the missing ads I placed - and asked him about the woman, who's name he has called me more often lately. All he said of that, was that she was someone in his life who was very special, and now she isn't in his life any more. I asked what happened - he said firmly "No. I'm not going there with you". He refused to answer a lot of my questions, and frustrations - and just listened.. barely breathing. I cried, and sniffed, and sobbed, and whined "Why??? I don't understand, why you can't tell me about you!"... He remained silent. He said he lived in a house with a Blue door - drives a Blue car.... and that was about it. I talked about how unsettled I am. How uncomfortable I feel, and how I don't know how to process it... because ... what happened - was not real. I talked about how he's locked me into a corner, where I can't talk to people about it - because he won't tell me anything about him. He remained silent - just listening.
When I finished crying so heavily - he apologised. He gave no explanation, or comment, on why he carried on - knowing I was not able to give consent - and had said no. The call ended shortly after.
He rang back the next night and he asked if I was ok. I said no. We talked about chit chat - and then parted ways.
The next few nights I didn't answer his calls. The next few weeks became busy, needing several late night admin stuff on the computer, so when he rang - I was very "Business like" and distracted - on the couple of occassions he called. The Butterflies I have felt, every single call in all these years... are weakening, and dying. I feel empty and lost. If he tried anything on - I changed the topic, and refused to engage. I actually don't want him "touching" me. I just want to snuggle up to someone and be held, but my trust is gone. I still don't know how to stabilise or make sense of any of it.
Then last night.... He called - and I chatted, recognising the dying feelings, and I felt sad... but we chatted about day stuff... and he kept trying to engage a more intimate act... I didn't. And then he asked a question... "Do you want to play?"... I snapped back loudly "NO!". He fell silent. I was proud of myself for telling him so loudly and firmly. He remained silent a while - I could practically hear his jaw, hit the floor.... and after a pause of silence - with the word, hanging between us ominously - he softly said he hears me. And it was loud and clear. We talked. I told him I don't understand what's happening - but I don't want any type of that kind of thing. I told him "I can't - I just can't do it, and I don't want it". He was clearly sad. He apologised sincerely that he hurt me. I didn't answer. He asked if I will ever be "fixed". He apologised for using that phrase, but he didn't know how to say it any other way. Deep down - he was asking if "we" were over. I heard the *** rip through him in those few words. I told him honestly "I don't know". But I look at everything and thing "where we ever really a "we" anyway?". He apologised again for hurting me. I told him, that I know he's a man who needs sex - and that if he wants it - he should seek it elsewhere. I told him I'd be happy to chat - but no intimacy... but I get that, that might not work for him. That I'm just to lost and confused right now.
He tried to lighten the mood, and I didn't play along - he talked about a colour and material... hinting - wanting me to tell him about some sexy lingerie I may be wearing.... I refused to engage. I know he was hurting - but I am too. I've been a fool over this man, for 20 years of my life, and then this......
We parted company and I ;ay there thinking - this can't be it for me.... not like this.... I NEED to sort my head out. I emailed a private Sex Therapist for a price list - not that I'll be able to afford it, but I have to help myself if I want to level off... it's been nearly a Month, afterall, and the situation is entirely ridiculous. I probably need professional help. I warned the Therapist that it's not a normal situation and I probably should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act! lol. I hope to be able to get some kind of resolve, with professional help... because clearly I can't get to a point of understand what the heck is going on in life.
I fell asleep after emailing the Therapist, and and putting a YouTube ASMR video on to try and block out the thoughts - while honestly feeling, just gut achingly sad, and still lost, and very confused, and uncomfortable... and like I've lost trust in everything - I can't even cry over it, and I am irritable and cynical about everything right now. It's not a good way to be.
Today I had a powerful meeting, where I had to be the strong, independent, in control of things, powerful, woman I have to be for what I do .... I was glad when the "enemy" didn't show... but I was left feeling a little deflated as I wanted the fight too. By the evening - I just felt drained and heavy.
He rang again tonight, not so long ago, but I was talking to my Dad. I never answered his call, or rang "my guy" back. I just don't know what to say to him any more - because he won't give me anything of his "real personal life" to work with. I so wish I didn't feel like this, though, even though I know (thanks to kind advice here) that this is very far from a healthy relationship, with him...... But I truly wish, that I could just change the way I'm feeling, to be a little more stable, at the very least.
Thanks to everyone who has had the patience to read my waffle, and post here, or message me. Your opinions have been invaluable. I am truly grateful.
Thank you so very much. :)
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Why did MrMarkMark delete his original profile, with which he posted the first post, and return with a named profile?

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Submissive Vs Little?
Sorry for the utterly ridiculous, stupidly long post. I'm just really very confused, and I'm trying to figure it all out.
What is the difference between a Submissive and a Little??? ...... and how do you know what you are?
BACKGROUND:
Life recently has switched on me, and become immensely Read more…difficult. I am now a full-time, sole Carer for my Mother, who's deteriorated rapidly, with recently diagnosed Lewy Body Dementia, and on top of that, there are issues with my Neighbours, and the house, and everything is crashing down on me. I am seeking professional help, from my G.P. for myself now, because it's all coming to a head. Social Services, have done nothing but cause upset and distress, so I struggle alone with Mother, while still trying to seek help. ... Bear with me... there is a point to my ramblings.
So a couple of weeks ago, I had a "bit" of a meltdown, from all the pressures, and lack of sleep, due to Care work, and crashed badly. For days I just simply ceased to function.
I have a long term phone friend, who we have very powerful phone sex sessions together, who has listened to me deteriorate with the stresses, as Mother's needs come first, and my life dwindled away, including all forms of relationships, and any intimacy.
It's been very tough. ... but when he called me, and found out that I hadn't eaten for 4 days, and drunk very little, he went all stern and commanding on me, and I found myself resisting marginally, but following his instructions, on the phone, to eat while we were on the phone, and drink a specified amount of water. That first time, when I had eaten, and drunk, and showered, he lowered his voice, as I settled on my bed, and he whispered "Good Girl".... those 2 words had an instant effect. He didn't ask any more of me, and simply was there, breathing, and stayed until I fell asleep. I felt so cared for.
He's been ringing twice to three times a day, instructing me, ever since. I have found myself pouting and resisting at times, while desperately wanting to please him, and the simply commands me again, and I know it's nuts, but I end up giving in. He is nurturing, encouraging, instructing, supportive, and if his words effect me hormonally, he has not been engaging, as he said it would be wrong right now.
Then, today, late this afternoon, I needed him, I needed that intimacy desperately, so I sexted him a very strong text, giggling and panting as I did, knowing full well what the effect on him would be.
A few hours later, he'd got home, changed, got into bed, and phoned me. What proceeded was an intense, but much needed 2 hours of bed sheet stripping, phone sex, with multiple orgasms, on both sides, with him doing orgasm control (?), on me. He controlled everything, and it was just perfect.
Afterwards, he stayed a while, and in between dozes, he checked I was ok, and if I liked everything we did. Te seemed to need the reassurance...... and a short time later, round 2 started, for about 30 minutes... only when he finished, he dozed, woke up, and suddenly hung up, without a word. It's happened before, and while I don't like it, we had been on the phone, and at it, for hours, so I tried to push the bad feelings away.
But here's the thing, I'd always considered myself a sapiosexual, demisexual, submissive, but we (phone bloke & I) rarely play totally to the Submissive thing, it's more that he takes the lead, and dominates our time, and it works for us, thus far ..... but about 8 months ago, I discovered an online audio artist who does sfw, ddlg roleplays, and I find myself grinning and feeling really good, and relaxed, about the dialogue. I catch myself pouting, and thinking smarta$$y comments back, and giggle at my stupidness at my reaction to it all. I know it sounds weird, but... it just feels... well... right.
Now - I like the pyschology side of things, and I put my reaction down to my ***d mentally and emotionally, childhood, lack of parental nurturing, and the growing need of comfort, protection, and support in some very, unhappy, testing times. ....... but when my phone guy, has been "looking after me", in similar dialogue construction as those audios, and him praising me, or telling me not to be a brat.... and I'm getting all these big feelings and emotions going on, at that time.... at the end, I'm left utterly confused..... and then, on here, I find out, that there is this term "little", (what's the difference between submissives and littles???), and that there are even "Caregiver/Little" scenarios, and so on..... and I'm sitting here so utterly confused, because, I suddenly feel like I don't know who I am, or what I am, and phone guy will never be anything other than on the phone (his choice, not mine), and I'd really like to explore what I really am, for real.... but.... then again - with all that's going on, and the immense pressures I'm dealing with, in life, I just don't know if I should just stop thinking about all of it, and not seek answers, because is it really fair on anyone, when I feel in such a potentially fragile, jumble right now, and feel quite alone in my life's fight. It could just be my Brain's way of trying to seek some form of comfort, from anywhere, afterall.... but then, my Mother's Dementia could go on for years, so how long do I wait?
Aaaarrrggghhhh!!!! I'm so confused!!!!!
freddiewoodville
freddiewoodville Hi
Sorry to hear of your struggles my father had the same illness
I wish you the best and if you ever need to talk Hi
Sorry to hear of your struggles my father had the same illness
I wish you the best and if you ever need to talk
Like · 09.02.2020 10:59:03
Deleted profile I'm sorry life is a struggle right now, I'm a submissive ' little' as well and also have a lot of responsibilities, it really helps me when I talk to my online 'daddy' it helps me focus my mind when he speaks to my ' little' .maybe your online Freind will be willing to experiment with a bit of Read more… little talk , perhaps not all the time as you've a lot going on . I can only speak from my own experience but since I've fully embraced my inner ' little ' I feel better like I've accepted every part of myself . Good luck on your journey and I hope life gets smoother for you xx
Like 06.11.2019 17:30:16
Deleted profile DanteReign explained well about the little title.
I might sound harsh or maybe rude, but it’s not good to play while your mind is not in the right place. While this guy make you feel happy on that moment, it’s like a sugar rush. You need to sort out the big deal first. I won’t say it’s *** or a selfish play on his part, but you need to adresses your issues with him before carry on sessions.
kind regards DanteReign explained well about the little title.
I might sound harsh or maybe rude, but it’s not good to play while your mind is not in the right place. While this guy make you feel happy on that moment, it’s like a sugar rush. You need to sort out the big deal first. I won’t say it’s *** or a selfish play on his part, but you need to adresses your issues with him before carry on sessions.
kind regards
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Confused ...&... Am I Basically Insane?

Just a LOOOONNNG update! (Sorry!):
Thank you all!!! :) I have read, and re-read, your comments, and believe me, I have taken them on board.
So, I finally I got to speak with him last night. He explained his lack of contact over the last few days, as being because of the clocks changing, and work. Read more… But our conversation was not flowing by any standard. It was like there was this minefield in the middle of us, and whereas I wanted to jump right into it, and take whatever happens, as it comes...... he wanted to ignore it. I don't know why.
Our chat was, at first, rather stilted, as I knew he didn't want to discuss it. I'm rarely stuck for words, but when he asked if I had anything to say, I genuinely struggled, because of my concerns for him.
In the end I told him that I'd worried so much, that the other night was too much for him, and that I'd scared him away. I actually, desperately, wanted to talk to him about what happened, how I'd felt, etc.... and more importantly, how he felt. But all he said was "Did you enjoy it?". My breath caught as I squeaked out a fading "yes", and then couldn't help but giggle, as my lower tummy fluttered at the memory, and my face heated instantly, and heard his own breath falter at my involuntary response. And then I asked if HE enjoyed it... but... I didn't really get a positive response. I mean, he said yes, and thanked me... but I don't know... it was weird - like he didn't want to admit it... or rather, he just said it because he thought that's what I wanted to hear. I just wish he would be able to tell me.
And then, after a while, we just had some gentle, slow, quiet time together, that he made completely all about me, which was so nice, and afterwards, before he left, he made sure I understood it was time for him to go.... but after he went, while I wasn't awake for long, I still feel confused, and like something is unresolved. ...... and the worst part is, that I will never be able to resolve it, because he won't discuss it. ... And the other day, I learned that Dom's can have their own type of drop. So maybe he experienced something similar, but because he's Mr Mystery, he feels he can't talk either...... ugh! Who knows.
I understand perfectly, what everyone is saying, about the situation. That it is a very one sided mind-game. Yes, to a degree, it is. I've also been physically, in his vacinity, in person, three times now, giving him opportunity to meet me. Twice, years ago, when immediately afterwards, he vanished for weeks, without warning or explanation, during which time, my Mother took great delight in telling me repeatedly, while I internally grieved over his absence, that he must have seen me, and not liked what he saw, etc. Again, no explanation, when he returned.
The third time, I was, I believe, very close to him, but it's clear that he doesn't want to see me. However, he saved me, by guiding me to where I needed to be, when I got lost in his town, for which I'm so very grateful for.
And he has put up with a lot from me. More often than not, lately, I've 'off-loaded' my day's rubbish - including sometimes, the *** I get, onto the poor guy, and then simply passed out and snored at him. I've emotionally not been there for him in a long time... but then, it's hard to be there for him, when he said his day's been bad, but he won't tell me how, or why, or anything. Years ago, I spoke to another woman, who had spoken to him too. She told me his Mother had died in previous Months. I'd had no idea. Again, he didn't want to discuss it with me, so I said I knew, from the other lady, and that I was there if he wanted to talk. He never did. Like I said - I know nothing about this guy. But... I gain a lot from him too.
The last disappearance, for over a year, rocked me to the core, and changed - maybe for the better\ marginally healthier, things between us. We used to talk every night for hours. Now, if I'm tired or committed to other stuff, my priorities have changed, and I now deal with that first. ... which doesn't sound much, but before, I would drop everything to be with him, sometimes at the detriment (he never knew) of the other things.
It's a VERY messed up situation, that I wish were different, and I'm probably in desperate need of professional therapy, for this one matter alone... but I do have feelings for him, (that drive me potty, as I sometimes crave a real physical interaction with him, to the point of panting! Lol) and it annoys me, that still, even after all these years, right from Day 1, every time I hear his voice, I get the most insane Butterflies, and a stupid grin on my face.... and honestly, as this is all my elderly parents will ever allow me to have, in terms of a relationship, for now, (I'm 43, but their real-life Cinderella), I can't do anything else, even if I had the desire to. I'm not necessarily happy about the situation, but he's deeply embedded, under my skin, and I know it's mental, and crazy, but I just didn't feel 'right' without him in my life. That's not to say I am closed minded about connecting with other guys, should the opportunity arise. I did try dating - especially during his 'hiatus', but it didn't work out. I felt like I was cheating, even though it was a typical basic date, and then the other guy turned out to be married, and admitted that actually, he wasn't dominant, as he'd claimed, but was actually more submissive than myself, so that was never going to work on either count! Lol.
Anyway - in summary, I'm soooo glad I've found this site. The situation still remains unresolved, but at least he's turned up again. I'm reading so much on this site, and it's obvious that I've soooo much more to learn.
And as I said, I've genuinely taken on board, what each and everyone of you, has said about my issues, followed some advice, and feel a lot better, even it there is still some confusion remaining.
Thank you for your advice, and thoughts, and opinions, and taking the time to reply. :)

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Confused ...&... Am I Basically Insane?
So firstly, I apologise if this is in the wrong place. I feel I need\want to talk about things, but don't know where to go, where I won't be judged, because my situation isn't normal, and I'm not even sure what's happening. Maybe I'm just nuts. I just don't know any more.
I also apologise for Read more…this super long and rambley post - but I literally have nobody to talk to about this with, and I feel like I'm losing the plot today.
A bit of background:
Years ago (2004) I met a guy on a phone chatline. We've been speaking most nights ever since. He's older than me, and a lot more experienced, and takes the lead in any intimacy we have. He is not a dominate\master, but he takes the lead, and it something like one.
The weird part is - we've never met, even though I've tried, and I know practically nothing about him - even though I've tried asking him, and I don't even know basics, or what he looks like, or even his birth month... and he's made it clear that no-one knows about me in his off-phone World (it hurts if I dwell on it, but what can I do)... and while, on one side, it sometimes hurts me, because I can't do normal things couple's do - my life, as a full time carer for my now elderly parents, who are also sociopathic ***rs, (meaning I've been forbidden to have any relationships that might lead to something, in case they lose me) - isn't condusive to anything other than a telephone relationship, and well... it has worked for us, all these years. Please don't judge me for this. It's so hard explaining this long distance relationship as it is. I know it's mental... but I felt a connection from day 1, and I've got strong feelings for this guy, that are probably not reciprocated, but he's put up with me all these years anyway.
Anyway - intimacy... so technically I'm a Virgin. But he literally educated me, and showed me that it was ok to be sexual, and to engage that way. He's told me, that if I find someone to do things with, I should do that (hated him saying it... sobbed over it because it felt like rejection, but what he was actually meaning back then, was that he'd never let me see him, or meet him, due to his own perceptions of himself, and our age gap, I guess).
He encouraged me to read lots, and watch lots, and learn, and from the naive woman, who everyone considered, was A-Sexual, and who couldn't even say common slang for basic anatomy, lol, I've grown into someone who relishes my sexuality, finds sex pyschologically fascinating, has learned I am a demi and sapio-sexual, am more inclineded to be submissive, and I look forward to my time with him, and gets totally and fully submersed in all we do together, ... even if it is only on the phone.
And this is where I'm confused.
There are times where, when we play, if for example, he spanks me, it feels so real that the next morning, I'm checking myself for his handprints... and the memories make me catch my breath.
There are times, where he "uses" toys, and I find myself in the described position, and can visualise, and feel whats being used. And every time, it gives a very real, physical reaction, in me, leaving me begging him for relief, (unless told to keep quiet), then afterwards, gasping for air, trembling, and positively buzzing in the afterglow. Then next day, I find I'm almost chiding myself, because, how is it even possible, when the reality is, I've been lying in my bed alone. I just don't get it.
Then there are times like last night, where it gets intense. Except, it doesn't get intense like this often at all, and I've certainly never felt like this afterwards. Maybe my hormones were on the run... I've no idea. I just am so confused.
We had several hours of play, with spanking, restraints, etc, and honestly, in the end, its gone all a bit hazy in my head. I know I felt incredible, and was practically yelling for relief, and begging him, and panting, and after a while, I seemed to roll from one orgasm to the next, fluidly that I couldn't even think. Afterwards, I felt so heavy limbed, and tired, and yet a bit giggley at the gutteral moaning sounds I was unintentionally making. And most of all, I so desperately wanted him to feel good. I'm literally anxious about it right now.
It could be, because we had a blip in our relationship in 2013. I went through a mental breakdown, and he became an unpaid therapist, and it was too much for him, so he just vanished for over a year, without a word, leaving me broken and un-able to talk to anyone, because the situation isn't normal and friends criticised my stupidity in grieving for someone I "don't know". ). I actually thought he may have died, and trawled obituries, even though I don't even know his Surname. It was a horrible time. And then, he turned up one night literally like nothing happened, refusing, (still to this day), to discuss his absence, and we picked up where we'd left off, over a year previously.
Before that, often after play, we'd fall asleep on the phone together, only disconnecting when either of us got up for work. I loved curling up, and hearing him sleeping.
But since his return, he asks me to say goodnight, and when I've said it - or if I protest saying it - he just hangs up. Sometimes he wakes up after a few minutes napping, after play has ended, and then simply hangs up without a word. I don't like it, but beggars can't be choosers, right, and I squash the nagging voices trying to get me to think I'm just a phone booty call to him.
Last night however, I was still trembling, and trying to steady my breathing, still getting jolted by incredible aftershocks, when he made triggering sounds, and I'd rolled over onto my side, and curled up....we stayed silent for literally 2 minutes, before he just hung up. The call end beep startled me violently. It was well after 3am, and I know he had work, but I ended up feeling so.... I don't know ... confused... And then the tears came, and the lonely empty feeling, and the berating myself, over how stupid I am to feel like this - because afterall, it's just me alone, in my then damp, and crumpled sheets, and no-one had done anything to me at all. I couldn't sleep for hours. I cried myself to sleep out of exhaustion, around 7am, while listening to an ASMR video with male breathing, just to stop my mind doing this to me. I woke again, startled, calling out his name, at 10:38am, before realising where I was, and that I was late with my Carer Duties... thank godness, my father took over, as he thought I needed the sleep.
I don't know what's happening to me today though. I feel really meloncholy, down, stiff and achey limbed, no energy, and I haven't actually left my bed. I keep replaying bits of last night, and honestly, I just want to be the 'little spoon' and cuddle up with him, and sleep, and hear him sleeping too. My head is all over the place. I'm desperate to have real physical contact with him - with his body on mine. I feel empty, and restless, want to discuss it all, and yet, I'm tired, and mixed up, and so utterly confused, and I'm so worried that as last night was so intense, that I've scared him off, and I've lost him again. I've even texted him to ask if he's ok, to thank him, and to apologise if I was too much last night - even if he did all the talking, as all I could do was beg, whimper, and plead for relief. I've heard nothing back.
I don't understand what's wrong with me today. I'm so confused. I've never felt like this before. I shouldn't feel like this now. It was just phone sex afterall. No-one laid a finger on me. Ugh! I can't seem to settle my head today.
Thoughts and opinions, greatly appreciated, on what on earth is happening to me today.... but like I said, please don't flame me, for the oddity of my relationship with him. I wouldn't have anyone in my life, in this way, if it wasn't for him, due to my Carer work for my elderly parents, and he is my rock.
Sorry again, for the super long post! :(
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PumpkinFlower
PumpkinFlower Just a LOOOONNNG update! (Sorry!):
Thank you all!!! :) I have read, and re-read, your comments, and believe me, I have taken them on board.
So, I finally I got to speak with him last night. He explained his lack of contact over the last few days, as being because of the clocks changing, and work. Read more… But our conversation was not flowing by any standard. It was like there was this minefield in the middle of us, and whereas I wanted to jump right into it, and take whatever happens, as it comes...... he wanted to ignore it. I don't know why.
Our chat was, at first, rather stilted, as I knew he didn't want to discuss it. I'm rarely stuck for words, but when he asked if I had anything to say, I genuinely struggled, because of my concerns for him.
In the end I told him that I'd worried so much, that the other night was too much for him, and that I'd scared him away. I actually, desperately, wanted to talk to him about what happened, how I'd felt, etc.... and more importantly, how he felt. But all he said was "Did you enjoy it?". My breath caught as I squeaked out a fading "yes", and then couldn't help but giggle, as my lower tummy fluttered at the memory, and my face heated instantly, and heard his own breath falter at my involuntary response. And then I asked if HE enjoyed it... but... I didn't really get a positive response. I mean, he said yes, and thanked me... but I don't know... it was weird - like he didn't want to admit it... or rather, he just said it because he thought that's what I wanted to hear. I just wish he would be able to tell me.
And then, after a while, we just had some gentle, slow, quiet time together, that he made completely all about me, which was so nice, and afterwards, before he left, he made sure I understood it was time for him to go.... but after he went, while I wasn't awake for long, I still feel confused, and like something is unresolved. ...... and the worst part is, that I will never be able to resolve it, because he won't discuss it. ... And the other day, I learned that Dom's can have their own type of drop. So maybe he experienced something similar, but because he's Mr Mystery, he feels he can't talk either...... ugh! Who knows.
I understand perfectly, what everyone is saying, about the situation. That it is a very one sided mind-game. Yes, to a degree, it is. I've also been physically, in his vacinity, in person, three times now, giving him opportunity to meet me. Twice, years ago, when immediately afterwards, he vanished for weeks, without warning or explanation, during which time, my Mother took great delight in telling me repeatedly, while I internally grieved over his absence, that he must have seen me, and not liked what he saw, etc. Again, no explanation, when he returned.
The third time, I was, I believe, very close to him, but it's clear that he doesn't want to see me. However, he saved me, by guiding me to where I needed to be, when I got lost in his town, for which I'm so very grateful for.
And he has put up with a lot from me. More often than not, lately, I've 'off-loaded' my day's rubbish - including sometimes, the *** I get, onto the poor guy, and then simply passed out and snored at him. I've emotionally not been there for him in a long time... but then, it's hard to be there for him, when he said his day's been bad, but he won't tell me how, or why, or anything. Years ago, I spoke to another woman, who had spoken to him too. She told me his Mother had died in previous Months. I'd had no idea. Again, he didn't want to discuss it with me, so I said I knew, from the other lady, and that I was there if he wanted to talk. He never did. Like I said - I know nothing about this guy. But... I gain a lot from him too.
The last disappearance, for over a year, rocked me to the core, and changed - maybe for the better\ marginally healthier, things between us. We used to talk every night for hours. Now, if I'm tired or committed to other stuff, my priorities have changed, and I now deal with that first. ... which doesn't sound much, but before, I would drop everything to be with him, sometimes at the detriment (he never knew) of the other things.
It's a VERY messed up situation, that I wish were different, and I'm probably in desperate need of professional therapy, for this one matter alone... but I do have feelings for him, (that drive me potty, as I sometimes crave a real physical interaction with him, to the point of panting! Lol) and it annoys me, that still, even after all these years, right from Day 1, every time I hear his voice, I get the most insane Butterflies, and a stupid grin on my face.... and honestly, as this is all my elderly parents will ever allow me to have, in terms of a relationship, for now, (I'm 43, but their real-life Cinderella), I can't do anything else, even if I had the desire to. I'm not necessarily happy about the situation, but he's deeply embedded, under my skin, and I know it's mental, and crazy, but I just didn't feel 'right' without him in my life. That's not to say I am closed minded about connecting with other guys, should the opportunity arise. I did try dating - especially during his 'hiatus', but it didn't work out. I felt like I was cheating, even though it was a typical basic date, and then the other guy turned out to be married, and admitted that actually, he wasn't dominant, as he'd claimed, but was actually more submissive than myself, so that was never going to work on either count! Lol.
Anyway - in summary, I'm soooo glad I've found this site. The situation still remains unresolved, but at least he's turned up again. I'm reading so much on this site, and it's obvious that I've soooo much more to learn.
And as I said, I've genuinely taken on board, what each and everyone of you, has said about my issues, followed some advice, and feel a lot better, even it there is still some confusion remaining.
Thank you for your advice, and thoughts, and opinions, and taking the time to reply. :)
LikeBigPolly, KCurious · 02.04.2019 15:44:57
RavenSass
RavenSass Your diminishing what is happening to you so much even though it causes you great ***... Just because no one touched you, it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.
Mental *** is much worse than anything physical ever will be. What is happening to you is not good in the sense that it doesn't make you feel Read more… good. Just because he showed you a whole new world it doesn't mean that he is the only one on it. There are so many of us out here who are in the same world and enjoying it.
I think it has just come to a point where it's too ***ful for you to not have contact.
BTW in BDSM relationships communication is key. If you don't feel confident in talking with a partner about an activity or the outcome of that activity you then maybe you should not do that activity. Even if people here like to provide *** to others it's because those others are gaining something from that ***, while you are not only in *** but lonely in that *** as well...
Also, it showed a lot about his character that he left you when you needed him the most.
My honest advice would be to try to find support in places like these and find new and better connections, hopefully even someone that you could explore your submission desires with...
Like · 29.03.2019 16:43:00
Deleted profile so after a year of silence you open your door and offer yourself to him like it was normal.
you accept his "ownway" because you get that gratification. You feed him your own ***, hes like someone who's grooming for more ***.
some need aftercare some don't, you clearly need one.
short term you are satisfied, long term wont be the same outcome. Be careful you are playing unknownly a dangerous mind game. so after a year of silence you open your door and offer yourself to him like it was normal.
you accept his "ownway" because you get that gratification. You feed him your own ***, hes like someone who's grooming for more ***.
some need aftercare some don't, you clearly need one.
short term you are satisfied, long term wont be the same outcome. Be careful you are playing unknownly a dangerous mind game.
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