Female Supremacy 💋🔥💋

[MyPleasure]

On 7/15/2020 at 11:47 AM, Paul_aka_Helen said:

And @MyPleasure I almost forgot to mention.

The Spanish Inquisition had basically nothing to do with witchcraft or female supremacy, it was an attempt by the Catholic Church to identify 'false converts' from Judaism and Islam.

Perhaps you're confusing it with the Monty Python sketch?

I said maybe it was a factor in the inquistion not implying the central cause is lesser factor (which is obviously related to the religion itself). There is usually more than just one reason. An Inquisitor may have taken a negative view to particular women who treated men so negatively or spoke as such towards men and used religion as an excuse to bash them on the head.
Misandristic women would have been fair targets in the inquistions eyes.

[MyPleasure]

On 7/15/2020 at 10:27 AM, Paul_aka_Helen said:

Well, I don't even know where to begin with this.

Let's start with "making men homosexuals". The scientific community thoroughly debunked this particular idiocy decades ago, round about the time when they stopped classifying alternative sexuality as a form of mental illness. ***d-fem and ***d-bi are, psychologically speaking a way for men to explore different sides of their gender identity and sexuality in a safe place which makes it easier to overcome their natural inhibitions. It is not about changing someone on a fundamental level.

Now we'll move on to "England ruled world when men were supreme", firstly there's the highly dubious premise that correlation implies causation, but I should also point out that the supremacy of England began under the guidance of Elizabeth I, who last I checked wasn't a man and was one of the most powerful people on earth at that time. Perhaps you should read the article on conservapedia which claims the UK lost it's dominant world position because of its "descent into socialism and atheism". That's about as defendable as a rational position. 

"If you think the world will be saved by handbags, pedicures, clothes, cosmetics and hairstyling..." Seriously? Is that all women are to you? That and a warm collection of holes for your amusement? It's precisely this attitude that kicked off first wave feminism in the first place, and which leads to the kind of angry feminists you refer to. They are not true dominant women any more than serial killers or rapists are strong decent men.

"If strongest man competes against strongest woman who would win?" I wasn't aware that leadership qualities were related to how big a weight you could lift.

"If most intelligent women compete against most intelligent men who would win?" Once again comprehensively debunked by the scientific community. It is generally accepted that intelligence is not dependent on gender. It is understood that a greater proportion of men are highly intelligent, but before you let that go to your head, a greater proportion are also less intelligent due to a higher variability.

"Have men done most of the hard labour and created the most important technological advances? Is it men who have done the fighting and most dangerous hard work? The great explorers visionairies pioneers builders etc" @Willow75 helpfully listed some of the great and influential women from history so I won't repeat that, but I will list a different collection.

Alice Ball - Chemist

Mary Anning - Paleontologist

Nettie Maria Stevens - Geneticist

Henrietta Leavitt - Astronomer

Lise Meitner - Nuclear Physicist

Rosalind Franklin - Molecular Biologist

Esther Lederberg - Microbiologist

I'm willing to bet you've probably never heard of any of them. The reason for that is that the credit for their work was stolen from them by men. There are many more, look them up. As for fighting, women were not permitted in the armed ***s, so there is that. Hard and dangerous work? That tends to be reserved for those of lower intelligence and higher physical strength, both characteristics favouring men. Not to mention that again, until comparatively recently, women were generally forbidden any kind of 'career' that didn't involve housekeeping and child rearing. 

"Anyway save your sarcastic pity for your weak sissy boys" - If you regard submissives as universally weak, then you demonstrate a woeful misunderstanding of what BDSM is. Submission and Domination are both given willingly in any successful dynamic. I'm going to assume that you style yourself as a Dom, I must admit I couldn't be bothered to look at your profile properly, so do you regard female submissives as weak pathetic creatures of no use except to do your bidding? If that is the case, I feel very sorry for anyone involved in a dynamic with you.

I have the great honour and privilege to be Submissive to my Mistress @Firewitch. I do not consider myself to be weak in any way, either physically, mentally or emotionally. My submission comes from a place of supreme respect and admiration for my Mistress. She demands nothing from me that I would not give willingly and happily, and thus we are both rewarded.

I'm sorry to say, but your post betrays a distinct lack of knowledge for History, Science and BDSM, and is an insult to every strong, resilient submissive, whether male, female, non-binary, transgender or intersex as well as an insult to the Dominants who care for them. I'm not going to cast any aspersions on the reasons for your attitude, but I do suggest that you go and do a great deal of reading before pontificating on subjects where your knowledge is obviously sorely lacking.  

 

"England ruled world when men were supreme",
During time of english queens, men ruled and had queen figurehead. Some might say it was the mens activity that caused the nation to rise. She was the head of a ***line. The majority of society was ruled by mens choices outside the home itself.
Females had no political legal power of vote until after the chartists and even after then there were limits to their power.

"firstly there's the highly dubious premise that correlation implies causation, but I should also point out that the supremacy of England began under the guidance of Elizabeth I, "

men were her advisers, guides, civil servants and her army and military. Lets not say the ships wooden figure head prow leads the choices of the ships crew, ok?
Margaret  Thatcher and Hillary Clinton are better examples of female rulers who had actual power and correlates to time of nation in its time of descent, falling from power or already fallen.

[MyPleasure]

On 7/15/2020 at 7:48 AM, Firewitch said:

i am not saying that there is no place for female power. I am just talking about what happens to the world when females have supreme power.

-From a global perspective Women do not have political, social, cultural power. Female Supremacy is an ideology to which i subscribe and whilst that may hurt your tiny pea brain, please bare with, whilst I respond to your points in turn in the vein hope to offering you some light in your dark world. I do this is peace, there is no hate.

All female supremacists i have judged have exhibited signs of hatred towards men, riddicule, attacks upon male sexuality, turning men sissy, making men homosexuals, sterilizing men cbt castration, attacking mans reputation, stealing a mans hard earned ***, spreading negativity towards men in society.

-Firstly I'm unclear of you position that allows you "to judge" anyone. Your perception of "signs of hatred" are actually things that allow men/ people to explore their desires and needs as they and their Domme wish to, like all healthy dynamics they're consensual. The people involved in these exchanges are proud to be and fought against bigots and rode the courageous challenge to do so. Obviously I don't condone stealing/ scammers but if you're referring to Fin/ProDomme exchanges, these are legitimate dynamics which are part of this beautiful lifestyle. Furthermore, this section of society celebrates and embraces the acts you describe, i suggest if you seek emersion into this community you may need to consider your perception and prejudices. Do this with an open mind, there is no hate.

So yes i might express hate towards such females as they are negative examples of females.

-Hate and intolerance to any group of people in my mind is narrow, limited, uneducated and unwanted. There is no hate.

But i dont hate them so much, they have their own inner hate and their own psychological problems to deal with.

-I think this comment is inflammatory and unnecessary. I have yet to meet a Domme with inner hate, are they addressing their psychological issues?? Abso- fucking- lutely!!! Are you?? There is no hate.

Why are they such control freaks? Why do they *** men so much? Yeah i could pity such sad women. Maybe they became fat and ugly and lonely then started getting hateful towards men and desired a slave man who wouldnt leave? Insecure of their own unattractive bodies they use *** to make a man 'love' them.

-Dominance doesn't mean control freak, I have seen, and have, no *** of men. People who demonstrate a deeper understanding of life celebrate the changes that occur in women physically from maiden to crone, the privilege of ageing, growth, insight, confidence, sexuality and sensuality is celebrated and embraced by the people who love, worship and respect them. There is no hate.

England ruled world when men were supreme. Now with rise of female power the uk has fallen to lower and lower status in world. USA is also starting to fall as females rise to power. Where as male led societies rise to greater power. So female supremacy is like an attack on its own society and an attack upon the lives of any future son they might have.

-I have little doubt that your views on England's world leadership are connected to broader political views which i also don't subscribe to. You appear to think that women have power in politics in UK and USA, whilst this is growing, they are yet to lead, which leaves this being a rather derelict point. Women build up each other, women build up society, their *** (sons and daughters), women hold families together (sometimes with the help of men, sometimes not). There is no hate.

I am not going to criticise your father or describe him or myself as the perfect example of manly behaviour. If a man is on his 4th wife it could speak of the deficient quality of himself or women in general or society itself. Or other reasons.

-It describes a man lost and seeking. There is no hate.

Anyway save your sarcastic pity for your weak sissy boys. Enjoy your  love together i am not banning you. I am not outlawing yoursex choices.

-It wasn't sarcastic albeit a bit mean, I do feel sad you have so much negativity in you, it must hurt. I'm not sure you're aware that you are not the law maker or person who bans. This is a free community filled with love. There is no hate.

I dont have a negative opinion of women. I merely gave an opinion of female domination and so called female supremacy.

-It is called Female Supremacy and the challenge this brings you would indicate to me this is in regard to women as a group of people and this is what draws my concern. You have demonstrated a chauvinistic, paternalistic and misogynistic position which will not assist you in life, but I expect you already know this as you're living it.

If you think the world will be saved by handbags, pedicures, clothes, cosmetics and hairstyling then follow such women in their glorious sissification of men! ha

-How very ridiculous 🙄

A woman can self egotise that she has brought a weak man to his knees, then filled with pride she declares women are supremely powerful...

-I think you've fantasised about this.

however if she steps outside her little ego bubble and looks at whole world she might see that female power is not supreme.

-This is a BDSM ideology.

Some women can lead and hold power well and there are weak men in the world that need strong women. I am not going to criticise weak men. If wanna be weak or strong choose.

-You finally acknowledge choice however the backhanded comment with regard to weak men, highlights again you lack of understanding of submission per se and what it means for the submissive and in turn the Dominant. Which compromises any position you may choose to attempt to take in the future. There is no hate.

I dont feel a need to destroy women or their fertility or their sexuality. I dont feel a need to sodomise their anus either.

-Maybe a good bumming could assist you?

If strongest man competes against strongest woman who would win?

-I'm not denying physiology

If most intelligent women compete against most intelligent men who would win?

-Neither would seek "to win".

Have men done most of the hard labour and created the most important technological advances? Is it men who have done the fighting and most dangerous hard work? The great explorers visionairies pioneers builders etc

-This is a BDSM ideology. Try really hard to think about that.

Maybe the spanish inquistition occurred because men felt repulsion at a witches claims about female supremacy?

-I love witches 🔥🧙‍♀️🔥

Regardless you are entitled to your opinion about supremacy and equality.

-I know

Why do you believe in female supremacy?

-Please read my original post. There is no hate.

What evidence do you about its efficacy?

-All of my submissives are testament to its efficacy. There is no hate.

Peace 🔥❤🔥

"If strongest man competes against strongest woman who would win?" I wasn't aware that leadership qualities were related to how big a weight you could lift.
I was taking the claim of supremacy and judging it on different levels. Physical supremacy, mental supremacy etc

It is generally accepted that intelligence is not dependent on gender.
SO YOU PROVE MY POINT. WOMEN ARE NOT SUPREME.
A woman makes a wild claim that a particular sexual gender is supreme. I didnt make the claim any gender is supreme. I merely argued against her and threw a few arguments her way to see what she would say.
So far her claim for supremacy is based on her own opinion and a few others that have supported the claim due to their own sexual inclinations, habits, experience etc

"Have men done most of the hard labour and created the most important technological advances? Is it men who have done the fighting and most dangerous hard work? The great explorers visionairies pioneers builders etc"
I NEVER SAID WOMEN HAVE NOT DONE SUCH THINGS. I ASKED HAVE MEN DONE MORE IN THESE AREAS? Therefore i could ask are men supreme in such areas.

Men didnt let women fight in wars,maybe because they cared more about a womans life, maybe loved women more because they were more virtuous before?

what right to judge? by same right you judge mens relativity to women and who is supreme and who is not.

these signs of hatred are actually a warped type of love when real love blocked and redirected and perverted.

Its like smoking cigarettes, its bad for people but they do it and get addicted. Its still bad for people even if they do it.

This is also a bdsm ideology, that women are not superior.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FETMOD-KF]

as some important points

1) resorting to personal insults is not tolerated

2) Please keep posts on topic

3) whilst there is always a right to disagreement - there are still dynamics which must be respected.  If you are not into (for example) Female Domination - that is fine; but there's no need to comment on a thread celebrating it to repeatedly drive home this point.  This is not discussing it is arguing - and trolling to provoke for reaction is also against TOU. 

I'd politely ask for this to be respected.

[Wo****]

3 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

Thanks for your contributions everybody.

You gave me alot of the info I needed for characters in my story.

Obviously my true personal beliefs and opinions have not yet been voiced. I merely wished to see what arguments FS would use.

I also have detailled replies to everything yet.....

Personally i dont care if FS rises, i think UK and USA deserve the nightmarish world that is a result of feminism and FS.

It was interesting to see the replies of female doms to my belief that FEMALES ARE NOT SUPERIOR
criticism of a 'spelling mistake' vicious not viscious
(like she has never spelt anything wrong in her life! ha ha. Oh my god, call the spelling police! ha ha)

even more funny when the witch later says

"if you seek emersion into this community you may..."
firstly firewitch didnt even use the correct word. Immersion is the word you wanted to say, emersion is the opposite.
Kind of funny a femdom criticises me for spelling vicious as viscious where at least used the correct word but the great firewitch didnt even see her own lack of intelligence in using incorrect word!
Kind of funny! oh well guess witches get a bit ocd with their spells! ha ha

*Simple negative labels like 'burn' which explain nothing, and say nothing about issue of females not being superior

* Misarguing a point.
I am not against women, not against submissives, not against truth. So Donny Kinsters words are the opposite of truth by badly arguing i am against such.

Donnykinkster :❝Oh my! Burn, @MyPleasure, burn! Your badly argued misogynistic views have been throughly debunked by @firewitch and @Paul_aka_Helen. Kudos to them for standing up for women, for submissives and for truth.

Oh Donny Kinkster what a virtuous knight rushing to defend these poor weak women and kneel down at their feet and kisse their asses. f they were truely supreme they would need the help of such a valient knight, ha ha

misogynistic = strongly prejudiced against women.
'deeply ingrained misogynistic attitudes'

UNTIL MEETING VARIOUS DOMINATRIX IN LAST 3 YEARS I HAD NO HATE TOWARDS WOMEN AT ALL AND I DONT HATE WOMEN IN GENERAL. ANY HATE AGAINST WOMEN FOCUSES ONLY ON THIS TYPE OF WOMAN and feminists who create war of sexes.
Also in truth my gender views are more balanced and closer towards equality. The views i present in this thread are merely to see what these supremacists would say.
Whats the word for strongly prejudiced against men?
Women who believe in their superiority and that men are inferior have such views and it seems natural being a man that i would take offence against such women!

Ahhh ive found the word
Misandry is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men or boys in general. Misandry may be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, gynocentrism, matriarchy, belittling of men, *** against men, and sexual objectification.

 

 

 

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I'm sorry....

Seriously?

[Deleted Member]

On 7/17/2020 at 10:42 PM, MyPleasure said:

 

Oh Donny Kinkster what a virtuous knight rushing to defend these poor weak women and kneel down at their feet and kisse their asses.

 

 

 

Nah, those like  Fire and others don't need me to "rush forwards to save the day" just showing support for people i know. Btw I've never said I believe in female supremacy although in many many ways ladies are much much more than men. It's a shame you can't see what a wonderful.contribution they bring and as to my earlier point. If women were in charge or at least had a fairer share of representation our world I believe would be a much nicer place, that is something I've always believed, they in general are a calmer and more logical bunch than men.

Edited July 18, 2020 by Deleted Member
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[helenOfToy]

9 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

"England ruled world when men were supreme",
During time of english queens, men ruled and had queen figurehead. Some might say it was the mens activity that caused the nation to rise. She was the head of a ***line. The majority of society was ruled by mens choices outside the home itself.
Females had no political legal power of vote until after the chartists and even after then there were limits to their power.

"firstly there's the highly dubious premise that correlation implies causation, but I should also point out that the supremacy of England began under the guidance of Elizabeth I, "

men were her advisers, guides, civil servants and her army and military. Lets not say the ships wooden figure head prow leads the choices of the ships crew, ok?
Margaret  Thatcher and Hillary Clinton are better examples of female rulers who had actual power and correlates to time of nation in its time of descent, falling from power or already fallen.

Actually most historical evidence suggests the Elizabeth I was a not a figurehead, but a genuine and powerful ruler who exercised that power openly. The very fact that she never married strongly suggests that she was was not manipulated by her advisers.

[helenOfToy]

10 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

I said maybe it was a factor in the inquistion not implying the central cause is lesser factor (which is obviously related to the religion itself). There is usually more than just one reason. An Inquisitor may have taken a negative view to particular women who treated men so negatively or spoke as such towards men and used religion as an excuse to bash them on the head.
Misandristic women would have been fair targets in the inquistions eyes.

Of course, 'witches' were swept up by the inquisition, as well as protestants and sodomites. But what you actually said was:

- "Maybe the spanish inquistition occurred because men felt repulsion at a witches claims about female supremacy?"

As it was not a stated aim of the inquisition, you might as well have said maybe it occurred because a few people had personal grudges, because I wouldn't mind betting more than a few of those got settled as part of it too.

[MyPleasure]

12 hours ago, Donnykinkster said:

Nah, those like  Fire and others don't need me to "rush forwards to save the day" just showing support for people i know. Btw I've never said I believe in female supremacy although in many many ways ladies are much much more than men. It's a shame you can't see what a wonderful.contribution they bring and as to my earlier point. If women were in charge or at least had a fairer share of representation our world I believe would be a much nicer place, that is something I've always believed, they in general are a calmer and more logical bunch than men.

maybe judging a mother or *** or friend or lover yes a positive side maybe seen. I am not criticising such.

I am criticising female supremacists who wish to conquor men, lower men in negative ways. If women desire equality this is acceptable to me, yet women must accept their share in being part of problems and not blaming men for the negative.

The spirit of woman can be destructive, negative and make war and *** just as a man can. Yes men have done this mostly historically as they were leaders, they took on the negative roles. And thereby allowed females to be beautiful virtuous and not be stained by such negative acts. But if women rule then they will get tainted by the negative acts that will occur.

A few examples, hillary clintons is accused of lots of negative acts in her pursuit of power. Celtic britain had female leaders and there were lots of wars and raids. It wasnt peaceful society. Lady bathory is rumoured to have bathed in ***. A hive of bees is mostly female yet it makes wars against other hives. The amazons are rumoured to have been warriors. Feminists made war against man creating war of the sexes. Females have been known to bully other girls and boys. Women prefer covert attacks like poison and can behave despotically and tyranically. They often use a cool indirect method of control. Yet their political views can often push and guide their menfolk into conflict.

Some women even like to get their man into fights in the pub, deliberately flirting, having affairs, taunting, nagging etc

There are female criminals.... look at female prison behaviour.... women are capable of every negative act that a man is capable of.

Your positive view of women is based on a world in which men mostly rule or in a world where there is equality. But you might see a more negative type of woman in a fem supreme world.

 

[MyPleasure]

10 hours ago, Paul_aka_Helen said:

Actually most historical evidence suggests the Elizabeth I was a not a figurehead, but a genuine and powerful ruler who exercised that power openly. The very fact that she never married strongly suggests that she was was not manipulated by her advisers.

Still comes back to the point that english society as a whole was being raised to power by male activity. They were the sailors, explorers, traders, army etc It was a man who discovered america....

most of her advisers were men, so she was choosing orders from those suggested by men, being guided by men. Much is done in the name of the leader.... yet often wasnt the leaders doing at all.
her famous motto "video et taceo" ("I see but say nothing") attests to the fact she was guided by counsel of others and these were mostly men.
If average person on street in different parts of world were asked who is elizabeth 1st and who is shakespeare, would shakespeare be better known? A man of no royal power still more well known than a woman ruler? A man who is supreme in another area of life!
A woman could easily write yet why does male literary genius shine supreme? The most popular most well read books are probably written by men?
In lots of ways Elizabeths failure to produce heir shows her failure in the most vital task of king or queen and it unsettled the country. A woman ruling alone and she failed in her duty.
Maybe the more power a woman has the more sterile she becomes? Like career minded feminists now old and single. A career with no family.

 

[MyPleasure]

19 hours ago, FETMOD-KF said:

as some important points

1) resorting to personal insults is not tolerated

2) Please keep posts on topic

3) whilst there is always a right to disagreement - there are still dynamics which must be respected.  If you are not into (for example) Female Domination - that is fine; but there's no need to comment on a thread celebrating it to repeatedly drive home this point.  This is not discussing it is arguing - and trolling to provoke for reaction is also against TOU. 

I'd politely ask for this to be respected.

OK I understand, though i admit i was criticising the concept of female supremacy not individuals and criticising negative female domination. I believe awareness of the negatives of female domination must be brought to light. It might help such females avoid becoming criminals since uk has laws against sexually abusive behaviour and they need to be aware that their fantasies might materialise as crimes.

In reply i was personally insulted and my character criticised. Such as saying i have a peasized brain or i should be bummed even after clearly stating i am against such acts. Also insults such as pitying me, basically saying i am a sad loser and threatening that i will be punished in the future for rejecting fem supremacy.

[FETMOD-KF]

5 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

i admit i was criticising the concept of female supremacy

this is a forum that celebrates all aspects of kink.  Including Female Domination.

5 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

I believe awareness of the negatives of female domination must be brought to light

but not to hijack a thread celebrating it.  

5 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

t might help such females avoid becoming criminals since uk has laws against sexually abusive behaviour and they need to be aware that their fantasies might materialise as crimes.

there is nothing in UK law against Femdom and Female supremacy fantasies.

5 hours ago, MyPleasure said:

In reply i was personally insulted and my character criticised.

which is one of the things I meant when writing "personal insults are not tolerated" 

[Wo****]

 

@MyPleasure

Would you consider starting a new thread about this?

There are some points where I can kinda, almost see where you're coming from. 

Your posts come across as anti women but I don't think you are. Things getting lost in translation?

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by Bounty
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[MyPleasure]

On 7/18/2020 at 5:59 AM, Donnykinkster said:

Nah, those like  Fire and others don't need me to "rush forwards to save the day" just showing support for people i know. Btw I've never said I believe in female supremacy although in many many ways ladies are much much more than men. It's a shame you can't see what a wonderful.contribution they bring and as to my earlier point. If women were in charge or at least had a fairer share of representation our world I believe would be a much nicer place, that is something I've always believed, they in general are a calmer and more logical bunch than men.

famous female leaders
Sobekneferu was the first known woman reigning as pharaoh for which there is confirmed proof. Ruled for 3 years 1806–1802 BC
She died without heirs/***, and the end of her reign was the end of the Golden Age of the Middle Kingdom. Little is known of her leadership but she only ruled for 3 years which suggests female supremacy is defeated by male supremacy.

535bc Tullia Major was the first daughter of Rome's sixt King, Servius Tullius, elder *** of Tullia Major. She was married to Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, while her younger *** married Arruns Tarquinius. She was assassinated by her husband and younger ***, so that they could marry and become monarchs.
Her position of power didnt make her lovable.
Tullia Major was the second daughter of Rome's sixt King, Servius Tullius, and the young *** of Tullia Major. She was originally married to Arruns Tarquinius, while her *** married Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. Dominating her husband, she conspired with her brother-in-law to kill her husband and ***. After their assassination and that of her father, they got married and she became the last Queen of Rome. Following Lucretia's *** and the overthrow of the monarchy, she and her family was exiled.
Female leaders fight led to end of Kingdom of Rome start of republic.
Licinia, the name of the roman women of the gens Licinius. killed by her relatives in 142 BC for ***ing her husband;
Publilia (1st century BC), a roman woman of the gens Publilius. She was killed in 154 BC for poisoning her husband, the consul of the preceding year.

Arsinoë was the first daughter of Pharaoh Ptolemy I Soter, founder of the Hellenistic state of Egypt, and his second wife Berenice I of Egypt. between 270 and 260 BC was a Ptolemaic queen and co-regent of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of ancient Egypt.
At about age 15, Arsinoë married King Lysimachus with whom she had three sons: Ptolemy Epigonos, Lysimachus, and Philip.
In order to position her sons for the throne, she had Lysimachus' first son, Agathocles, poisoned on account of treason.
After Lysimachus' death in battle in 281 BC, she fled to Cassandreia and married her paternal half-brother Ptolemy Keraunos, one of the sons of Ptolemy I Soter from his previous wife, Eurydice of Egypt.
As Ptolemy Keraunos was becoming more powerful, she decided it was time to stop him and conspired against him with her sons. This action caused Ptolemy Keraunus to kill two of her sons, Lysimachus and Philip, while the eldest, Ptolemy, was able to escape and to flee north, to the kingdom of the Dardanians.
She herself sought refuge in the Samothrace temple complex, which she had benefited during her tenure as queen. She eventually left from Samothrace for Alexandria, Egypt, to seek protection from her brother, Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
In Egypt, she is believed to have instigated the accusation and exile of her brother Ptolemy II's first wife, Arsinoe I. Whether this was actually true is unknown.
But we can see that female leaders will do negative acts and political plots, ***, poisonings etc

Cleopatra III was also known as Cleopatra Euergetis while associated with her husband Ptolemy VIII or her son Ptolemy X. She is attested as Cleopatra Philometor Soteira while associated with her eldest son Ptolemy IX. According to Strabo, she was sometimes known as Kokke when discussed in relation to her son Ptolemy X.
Cleopatra III's uncle Ptolemy VIII ruled together with her parents from ca 170 BC to 164 BC, at which point he expelled Cleopatra II and Ptolemy VI. However, he was soon ***d to abdicate in 163 BC.
Cleopatra III's parents retook the throne and remained in power for almost 20 years until 145 BC. Cleopatra III was born between 160 and 155 BC. She was a *** to Ptolemy Eupator, Cleopatra Thea, Ptolemy VII Neos Philopator, and possibly Berenice.
Ptolemy VI died in 145 BC from injuries sustained when falling from his horse during the battle of Oinoparas against Alexander Balas. Cleopatra III’s uncle Ptolemy VIII became the King of Egypt again. Joint rule with her mother and husband.
Ptolemy VIII first married Cleopatra III’s mother Cleopatra II in 145 BC, and married Cleopatra III in c. 139 BC.
Cleopatra II rebelled against Ptolemy VIII in c. 132 BC and Cleopatra III fled to Cyprus in 130 BC with her husband, but was able to return to Alexandria in 127 BC. In c. 124 BC Cleopatra III and her husband were joined again by her mother Cleopatra II as a joint ruler.
After the death of Ptolemy VIII in 116 BC Cleopatra III ruled jointly with her mother Cleopatra II and her son Ptolemy IX. Her mother died late into the same year or early into the next year (115 BC).
Cleopatra III expelled Ptolemy IX from Alexandria in 107 BC and replaced him as co-regent with her second son Ptolemy X. After 6 years of joint rule Ptolemy X had his mother Cleopatra III ***ed in 101 BC. Cleopatra III was succeeded by Ptolemy X, possibly in joint rule with his wife Berenice III, who was Cleopatra III's granddaughter.
Rule of women shows unsettled political regime. Mothers against sons/daughters, sons/daughters against mothers, brothers/***s and against brothers/***s. Lots of men wont accept a female leader and will rebel and attack.  Female rule has lots of problems.

Cleopatra VII Philopator is the famous cleopatra lover of julius caesar and mark antony, was the last active ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. 51bc the joint reign of Cleopatra and her brother Ptolemy XIII began, but a falling-out between them led to open civil war. After their meeting at Tarsos in 41 BC, the queen had an affair with Antony. He carried out the execution of Arsinoe at her request. So she had her half*** killed.
Under her leadership Egypt became a province of the Roman Empire, therefore could be seen as one of worst examples of a leader, a total failure that leads to your peoples conquest. She attracted Rome and invited it in. She was so selfishly trying to secure her own position of power she led to her people conquorer and Rome stripped Egypt of most of its wealth even destroying buildings as a type of quarrying.

Lucilla, (2nd century AD) Roman Empress, failed in her coup attempt on brother Commodus.

Mary I of England – also known as ***y Mary – killed a lot of Protestants when attempting to restore Catholicism to England during her reign. The heresy law that she instated is responsible for the burning of over 300 Protestants who were accused of being heretics. She was never prosecuted for any of her crimes; however, after her death, her re-establishment of Catholicism was reversed.

It is generally assumed that most – if not all – serial killers are men; however, that isn’t the least bit true. We have a list of women who are just as bad, if not worse, than many of the most famous male serial killers. We’re not entirely sure what caused these ladies to go off the rails. Many of them could have had relatively normal lives, but they didn’t really want it. Because of all the heinous crimes that they have committed, they have landed on our list of the most evil women in history.

Aileen Wuornos was a highway prostitute who is considered to be America’s first female serial killer. She brutally shot and robbed seven men in Florida during the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. She claimed that the homicides were committed in self-defense; however, she was found guilty of killing all six men and placed on death row. In 2002, she was executed via lethal injection.
Myra Hindley is considered the most evil woman in British history. Along with her partner Ian Brady, she carried out the Moors ***s in the 1960s. Together, they ***ed, sexually ***d and ***ed five *** and ***agers.

When they were caught, Hindley showed absolutely no remorse for her crimes and pleaded not guilty. For 20 years, she maintained her innocence; however, in 1987, she finally admitted that she had been involved in all five ***s. In 2002, she died in prison.
Karla Homolka is Canada’s most notorious female serial killer. She helped her husband, Paul Bernardo, and *** at least three women, one of them being her younger ***. She received a pretty light sentence for her crimes thanks to the plea deal that she struck with the prosecution. In exchange for her testimony against Bernardo, she received a reduced prison sentence of just 12 years.
The prosecution didn’t feel badly about this deal at first. Homolka claimed that Bernardo had been abusing her and that she had been ***d to participate in the ***s; however, video evidence later surfaced, proving that she wasn’t a victim but an active participant in all of the ***s. There was nothing that could be done though and her deal with the prosecutors has become known as the “Deal with the Devil”.
Rosemary West is notorious in Britain for her crimes. She, along with her husband Fred, sexually ***ed, ***ed and dismembered a number of young women and buried them in their cellar. One of these women was their daughter, Heather. Since being charged, she has maintained her innocence; however, the jury saw through it. In 1995, she was convicted of the torturing and ***ing of 10 women and was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
Amelia Dyer is one of the most prolific serial killers in history. She reportedly ***ed about 400 or more babies over a 20-year period during the Victorian era. She would prey on young, unmarried women with infants who would pay her to take care of their ***. This practice was known as baby farming.
Unlike most baby famers, Dyer would take *** from these women but, instead of taking care of their ***, she would kill them and dump them in the Thames River. Even though she was responsible for a number of deaths, she was only tried for one *** and was sentenced to death.
Countess Elizabeth Bathory to be the most prolific female serial killer. She was accused of torturing, mutilating and killing around 650 women between 1585 and 1610. Even though there was substantial evidence against the Hungarian Countess, she never faced trial because of her family’s influence.
Legend has it that Bathory had vampire-like tendencies. She reportedly bathed in the *** of victims in an effort to retain her youth.
Mary Mallon killed lots of people by causing typhoid fever.
*** Mother, Gertrude Baniszewski was an Indiana divorcee who oversaw and facilitated a prolonged ***, mutilation, and eventual *** of a ***age girl, Sylvia Likens. It was later discovered that the death and majority of the *** was actually carried out under Baniszewski’s instruction by her ***age *** and other kids from the neighborhood. When the woman was convicted of first degree *** in 1965, the case was called, “the single worst crime perpetuated against an individual in Indiana’s history.”
Witch of Buchenwald, Ilse Koch is considered one of the worst villains of the Holocaust. A wife of the commandant of the Nazi concentration camp Buchenwald, Karl-Otto Koch, Ilse Koch was a nymphomaniac who ***d prisoners in the concentration camp. She became known for her extremely evil and sadistic behavior. She enjoyed beating the prisoners, forcing them to perform sexual activities, and even skinning those who had distinctive tattoos. She would then use the tattooed skin to cover her books in it.
Ma Barker was the leader of the ***ed Barker Gang that consisted of her sons. Once the FBI’s Public Enemy Number One, Barker orchestrated a bunch of robberies, ***s, and ***ings throughout the American Midwest during the early 1930’s. In 1935, she was killed in her hideout in Florida in what was the longest shootout in FBI history.
La Madrina, or The Black Widow, Griselda Blanco was one of the most ruthless and ***ed drug “queenpins” of all-time. Born in 1943, this notorious Colombian criminal was one of the key figures in the infamous Medellin Cartel and has even been credited with being a mentor to one of the most successful drug lords, Pablo Escobar, who eventually become her enemy. It has been estimated that Blanco was responsible for up to 200 ***s while transporting cocaine from Colombia to the US.
Dagmar Overbye was a Danish serial killer who ***ed up to 25 *** – including one of her own – during a seven-year period from 1913 to 1920. Overbye was working as a professional child caretaker, caring for babies born outside of . Out of the babies she killed, some were strangled, some drowned, and the rest burned to death in her masonry heater. In March 1921, Overbye was sentenced to death in one of the most-watched *** trials in Danish history.
Chocolate Cream Killer, Christiana Edmunds was an English killer and mentally ill woman with a very weird hobby. She would chocolates from a shop, poison them with strychnine, and then return them to the shop. Other people would them and become ill. In 1871, a 4-year-old boy died from eating one of the chocolates she had poisoned. Edmunds was sentenced to death, but the sentence was later reduced to life imprisonment due to her mental state.
Mad Monarch of Madagascar, Ranavalona l is considered one the cruelest female political leaders in history. Ranavalona l ruled the African island of Madagascar for 33 years that were filled with nothing but terror, ***, and ***. Thousands of her people died due to the extremely brutal discipline she introduced. It was the Christian minority who suffered the most under Ranavalona’s regime as they faced imprisonment, ***, and execution.
Hyena of Auschwitz, Irma Grese was one the most notorious and brutal of the female Nazi war criminals. She was also one of only a few women concentration camp workers who was hanged for war crimes by the Allies. In 1943, Grese was in control of around 30,000 women prisoners, many of whom she ***d both physically and emotionally. She wore heavy boots, carried a whip and a gun, and enjoyed shooting prisoners in cold ***. Survivors reported that she seemed to derive great sexual pleasure from these acts of sadism.
Black Widow, Belle Gunness was one of America’s most degenerate and productive female serial killers. Standing 6 ft (1.83 m) tall and weighing in at over 200 lbs (91 kg), she was a very hefty and strong woman of Norwegian descent. It is believed that she killed both her husbands and all of her *** at different times, but it is certain that she also ***ed most of her suitors, boyfriends, and her two daughters, Myrtle and Lucy. The total number of Gunness’ victims is estimated to be between 25 and 40.
A member of a sinister religious cult, Klara Mauerova is a notorious Czech criminal known for torturing her two sons. With other members of the sadistic group, she even ***d one of her sons to eat his own flesh. The two boys (aged 8 and 10) were brutally ***d and sexually ***d for almost one year in 2007. The terrifying case of child *** was accidentally discovered when a TV baby monitor installed in a neighboring apartment picked up the signal from Mauerova’s monitor, showing one of the victims beaten, naked, and chained in a cellar.
Mireya Moreno Carreon was one of the first females to make a name for herself in the ***ed Mexican Los Zetas drug cartel. She was responsible for all of the drug-trafficking hot spots in Monterrey, Mexico. She actually began as a police officer before joining up with the drug lords and eventually became a boss of Los Zetas. She was arrested by authorities one year later while driving a stolen vehicle that held tons of ***.
Tillie Klimek was a Polish-born American serial killer active in Chicago in the first half of the 20th century. Klimek claimed she was psychic; she allegedly believed she had precognitive dreams, accurately predicting the dates of death of her victims. Between 1912 and 1923, Klimek poisoned at least 20 people with arsenic. Some of the victims recovered and survived, but most of them, including all four of her husbands, died. In 1923, she was sentenced to life in prison where she died in 1936 at the age of 60.
Charlene Gallego d, ***d, and killed a total of ten victims in and around Nevada and northern California between 1978 and 1980. All but one of those who fell prey to the sadistic couple were ***age girls or young women. Charlene Gallego served 16 years and was released early in exchange for testimony against her husband. Gerald Gallego was sentenced to death by gas chamber, but he died of cancer in a prison medical center while awaiting the execution.
Catherine de Medici was an Italian noblewoman and the Queen of France from 1547 until 1559. Also known as the Black Widow, Catherine de Medici is often regarded as the mastermind behind the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre, an organized violent Catholic mob directed against the Huguenots (French Calvinist Protestants) in August 1572. It’s estimated that up 30,000 Huguenots lost their lives in this ***y massacre.
Madame Blanque, Delphine LaLaurie was once a wealthy socialite known throughout New Orleans. She was later discovered to be an evil serial killer who ***d and ***ed her black slaves. Her gruesome hobby was discovered accidentally when rescuers responded to a fire at her mansion. They found bound slaves in her attic who showed evidence of cruel, violent treatment over a long period. Lalaurie’s house was then sacked by an outraged mob of New Orleans citizens. However, the ***ess managed to escape to France.
Russian female serial killer and noblewoman of the 18th century, Darya Saltykova is known for torturing and ***ing up to 140 of her serfs. Because of her noble origin, unusual brutality, and sadistic lust for ***, Darya Saltykova is often compared to the Hungarian *** Countess, Elizabeth Bathory, who committed similar crimes.
Between 1939 and 1940, Italian female serial killer Leonarda Cianciulli ***ed three women (all middle-aged neighbors) and made teacakes and soap out of their remains. This terrifying act earned her the nickname of the Soap-Maker of Correggio. Cianciulli was an extremely superstitious woman, and she allegedly committed the grisly crimes to break a family curse that was inflicted on her by her parents for marrying a man they did not like.
Juana Barraza is a former Mexican professional wrestler and one of the most prolific serial killers in Mexican history. Between 1998 and 2006, Barraza, a remarkably hefty and muscular woman, killed between 42 and 48 elderly women. This earned her the nickname the Old Lady Killer. It was long thought that the killer was a male. and it wasn’t until January 2006 when Barraza was arrested fleeing from the home of her latest victim. She was found guilty on 16 charges of *** and sentenced to 759 years in prison.
Miyuki Ishikawa was a Japanese midwife and probably the most prolific serial killer in Japanese history. With the aid of several accomplices including her husband, Ishikawa killed between 85 and 169 babies (mostly through neglect) in the 1940’s. During the trial, Ishikawa argued that it was the parents who were responsible for their deaths as they had deserted the ***. Surprisingly, her defense was partly successful as she was only sentenced to eight years of prison for her crimes. She even managed to half the sentence through an appeal.

SO HERE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW FEMALE CONTROL OR POWER CAN BE NEGATIVE. MY EYES ARE OPEN. I AM NOT DELUDED. I SEE THAT WOMEN HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR NEGATIVE ACTS.

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12 hours ago, FETMOD-KF said:

this is a forum that celebrates all aspects of kink.  Including Female Domination.

but not to hijack a thread celebrating it.  

there is nothing in UK law against Femdom and Female supremacy fantasies.

which is one of the things I meant when writing "personal insults are not tolerated" 

IF LOOK AT THIS LINK IT WILL SHOW THAT THE LAWS ACTUALLY STAND AGAINST THE BEHAVIOUR OF BDSM WHETHER MALE DOMS OR FEM DOMS

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On 7/19/2020 at 11:45 AM, MyPleasure said:

famous female leaders
Sobekneferu was the first known woman reigning as pharaoh for which there is confirmed proof. Ruled for 3 years 1806–1802 BC
She died without heirs/***, and the end of her reign was the end of the Golden Age of the Middle Kingdom. Little is known of her leadership but she only ruled for 3 years which suggests female supremacy is defeated by male supremacy.

535bc Tullia Major was the first daughter of Rome's sixt King, Servius Tullius, elder *** of Tullia Major. She was married to Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, while her younger *** married Arruns Tarquinius. She was assassinated by her husband and younger ***, so that they could marry and become monarchs.
Her position of power didnt make her lovable.
Tullia Major was the second daughter of Rome's sixt King, Servius Tullius, and the young *** of Tullia Major. She was originally married to Arruns Tarquinius, while her *** married Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. Dominating her husband, she conspired with her brother-in-law to kill her husband and ***. After their assassination and that of her father, they got married and she became the last Queen of Rome. Following Lucretia's *** and the overthrow of the monarchy, she and her family was exiled.
Female leaders fight led to end of Kingdom of Rome start of republic.
Licinia, the name of the roman women of the gens Licinius. killed by her relatives in 142 BC for ***ing her husband;
Publilia (1st century BC), a roman woman of the gens Publilius. She was killed in 154 BC for poisoning her husband, the consul of the preceding year.

Arsinoë was the first daughter of Pharaoh Ptolemy I Soter, founder of the Hellenistic state of Egypt, and his second wife Berenice I of Egypt. between 270 and 260 BC was a Ptolemaic queen and co-regent of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of ancient Egypt.
At about age 15, Arsinoë married King Lysimachus with whom she had three sons: Ptolemy Epigonos, Lysimachus, and Philip.
In order to position her sons for the throne, she had Lysimachus' first son, Agathocles, poisoned on account of treason.
After Lysimachus' death in battle in 281 BC, she fled to Cassandreia and married her paternal half-brother Ptolemy Keraunos, one of the sons of Ptolemy I Soter from his previous wife, Eurydice of Egypt.
As Ptolemy Keraunos was becoming more powerful, she decided it was time to stop him and conspired against him with her sons. This action caused Ptolemy Keraunus to kill two of her sons, Lysimachus and Philip, while the eldest, Ptolemy, was able to escape and to flee north, to the kingdom of the Dardanians.
She herself sought refuge in the Samothrace temple complex, which she had benefited during her tenure as queen. She eventually left from Samothrace for Alexandria, Egypt, to seek protection from her brother, Ptolemy II Philadelphus.
In Egypt, she is believed to have instigated the accusation and exile of her brother Ptolemy II's first wife, Arsinoe I. Whether this was actually true is unknown.
But we can see that female leaders will do negative acts and political plots, ***, poisonings etc

Cleopatra III was also known as Cleopatra Euergetis while associated with her husband Ptolemy VIII or her son Ptolemy X. She is attested as Cleopatra Philometor Soteira while associated with her eldest son Ptolemy IX. According to Strabo, she was sometimes known as Kokke when discussed in relation to her son Ptolemy X.
Cleopatra III's uncle Ptolemy VIII ruled together with her parents from ca 170 BC to 164 BC, at which point he expelled Cleopatra II and Ptolemy VI. However, he was soon ***d to abdicate in 163 BC.
Cleopatra III's parents retook the throne and remained in power for almost 20 years until 145 BC. Cleopatra III was born between 160 and 155 BC. She was a *** to Ptolemy Eupator, Cleopatra Thea, Ptolemy VII Neos Philopator, and possibly Berenice.
Ptolemy VI died in 145 BC from injuries sustained when falling from his horse during the battle of Oinoparas against Alexander Balas. Cleopatra III’s uncle Ptolemy VIII became the King of Egypt again. Joint rule with her mother and husband.
Ptolemy VIII first married Cleopatra III’s mother Cleopatra II in 145 BC, and married Cleopatra III in c. 139 BC.
Cleopatra II rebelled against Ptolemy VIII in c. 132 BC and Cleopatra III fled to Cyprus in 130 BC with her husband, but was able to return to Alexandria in 127 BC. In c. 124 BC Cleopatra III and her husband were joined again by her mother Cleopatra II as a joint ruler.
After the death of Ptolemy VIII in 116 BC Cleopatra III ruled jointly with her mother Cleopatra II and her son Ptolemy IX. Her mother died late into the same year or early into the next year (115 BC).
Cleopatra III expelled Ptolemy IX from Alexandria in 107 BC and replaced him as co-regent with her second son Ptolemy X. After 6 years of joint rule Ptolemy X had his mother Cleopatra III ***ed in 101 BC. Cleopatra III was succeeded by Ptolemy X, possibly in joint rule with his wife Berenice III, who was Cleopatra III's granddaughter.
Rule of women shows unsettled political regime. Mothers against sons/daughters, sons/daughters against mothers, brothers/***s and against brothers/***s. Lots of men wont accept a female leader and will rebel and attack.  Female rule has lots of problems.

Cleopatra VII Philopator is the famous cleopatra lover of julius caesar and mark antony, was the last active ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. 51bc the joint reign of Cleopatra and her brother Ptolemy XIII began, but a falling-out between them led to open civil war. After their meeting at Tarsos in 41 BC, the queen had an affair with Antony. He carried out the execution of Arsinoe at her request. So she had her half*** killed.
Under her leadership Egypt became a province of the Roman Empire, therefore could be seen as one of worst examples of a leader, a total failure that leads to your peoples conquest. She attracted Rome and invited it in. She was so selfishly trying to secure her own position of power she led to her people conquorer and Rome stripped Egypt of most of its wealth even destroying buildings as a type of quarrying.

Lucilla, (2nd century AD) Roman Empress, failed in her coup attempt on brother Commodus.

Mary I of England – also known as ***y Mary – killed a lot of Protestants when attempting to restore Catholicism to England during her reign. The heresy law that she instated is responsible for the burning of over 300 Protestants who were accused of being heretics. She was never prosecuted for any of her crimes; however, after her death, her re-establishment of Catholicism was reversed.

It is generally assumed that most – if not all – serial killers are men; however, that isn’t the least bit true. We have a list of women who are just as bad, if not worse, than many of the most famous male serial killers. We’re not entirely sure what caused these ladies to go off the rails. Many of them could have had relatively normal lives, but they didn’t really want it. Because of all the heinous crimes that they have committed, they have landed on our list of the most evil women in history.

Aileen Wuornos was a highway prostitute who is considered to be America’s first female serial killer. She brutally shot and robbed seven men in Florida during the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. She claimed that the homicides were committed in self-defense; however, she was found guilty of killing all six men and placed on death row. In 2002, she was executed via lethal injection.
Myra Hindley is considered the most evil woman in British history. Along with her partner Ian Brady, she carried out the Moors ***s in the 1960s. Together, they 

SO HERE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW FEMALE CONTROL OR POWER CAN BE NEGATIVE. MY EYES ARE OPEN. I AM NOT DELUDED. I SEE THAT WOMEN HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR NEGATIVE ACTS.

You must think me a fool, eyes, ears and brain closed for the last 51 years. I'm fully aware of the faults they can carry and do not see them through rose tinted glasses, I've seen spite and cruelty from women as I have men. You have a keen mind and much of your argument and points I totally agree with, you were right when you said may be I was thinking more of equality than supremacy when I spoke a few days ago, I did think on that and equality would do me just fine.

 

However I still believe and have for many years now if roles were reversed, let's say overnight it was mainly women who occupied the seats in the House Of Commons or the senate/congress is the States then I think our world would be a much nicer place. Not perfect no but kinder than it is now. I've read all your comments and as I say agree with many but not all. You mention physical strength of men building the world, inventing great things yet not always but mostly behind these great men you speak of was a woman. I draw my own conclusions and this is a loose example I know. You mention strength but what of emotional strength, yes the ladies may cry more at the end of a sad film but that is no true marker of strength. I know without doubt from what I have seen that women posess much much more emotional strength than men, I have no facts or statistics for this, I've seen it time and time again as the years passed by. They are emotionally stronger in general than men, some men may not like me saying that but it's the truth from what I've seen. 

 

If women overnight had control our planet would be cleaner, our young men would not so easily be sent off to slaughter and die themselves. The world would be a better place, in my view. Go take a look at out home, the earth, look at the mess men have made of it in their pursuit of riches, look at our hatred for those of different colour, creed, lifestyle, all notions created by men. Look at how we treat each other, what we are becoming as a race, all driven by men. No we havnt done much of a job at all have we so I wouldn't really go around telling the world how great we are when all you have to do is look outside to see what a top job we've done 😊

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38 minutes ago, MyPleasure said:

 

SO HERE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW FEMALE CONTROL OR POWER CAN BE NEGATIVE. MY EYES ARE OPEN. I AM NOT DELUDED. I SEE THAT WOMEN HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR NEGATIVE ACTS.

cherry picking data is intellectually dishonest

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17 hours ago, Donnykinkster said:

If women overnight had control our planet would be cleaner, our young men would not so easily be sent off to slaughter and die themselves. The world would be a better place, in my view. Go take a look at out home, the earth, look at the mess men have made of it in their pursuit of riches, look at our hatred for those of different colour, creed, lifestyle, all notions created by men. Look at how we treat each other, what we are becoming as a race, all driven by men. No we havnt done much of a job at all have we so I wouldn't really go around telling the world how great we are when all you have to do is look outside to see what a top job we've done 

I don't think it would be better or worse. The growing number of women in politics in recent years have shown to be as eager to send men to wars and do as little about economic inequality or in favour of the environment as men. Tell me I'm cherry picking but Hilary Clinton was going to increase military spending, Theresa May oversaw the windrush scandal, Priti Patel's bullying of staff, Margaret Thatcher - cuts to vital UK industries & the Argentinian ship she blew up on retreat hence the "iron lady". And we all know about the incompetent and/or corrupt male politicians. And of course there are plenty of good female leaders too, like the New Zealand Prime Minister, Sanna Marin, the Finnish PM, etc. Power corrupts regardless of the gender is what |'m trying to say. The institutional changes we need to see for a better world are bigger than gender - that's like changing the face but not the body, the heart of the machinery.

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On 7/12/2020 at 10:03 AM, Firewitch said:

I have more recently found myself drawn to the BDSM practice of Female Supremacy (FS). Before comments role in about we're all equal etc, i want to expressly note that this is a BDSM theory/ ideology and a practice which I'm embracing with regard to my position as a Dominant Female.

I think it is dangerous to practice this as an "ideology" or anything "extra" to roleplay. BDSM isn't a grand philosophy, it's just sadomasochism and sexuality which I guess can be kind of philosophical but how to express this. You talk about "heteronormative relationships" and how they can be burdensome in that they're the accepted norm almost to the extent we're sort of brainwashed by media to adhere to them. And I get that but you also talk about them like they are an Ideal - to share each other's finances and domestics and have kids with each other.

But most people when they get together in these arrangements are just seeking some kind of normality. And I don't mean normality as in being approved by the media & social standards but normality as in a stable rock in a very chaotic world. To enjoy one another's company, to raise a child they will love. I don't think it becomes healthy when any notion of "one party is to be in control" enters that picture at all.

And I mean this regardless if the dominant is male or female. I don't think it is good for the submissive to be controlled as they go about regular routines or for the dominant to always have to be in charge of everything. Rather the heteronormative state (and I think this should extend to non-binary relationships) is usually more about sharing responsibilities. Dominance and submission is exciting for the bedroom and I personally think partners should try both roles too - but that is for them to decide. But I think the more it extends into every day life, the more of a demand it becomes. And I think that demand will just grow and grow and become less and less healthy the more it is expectant of "BDSM Theory/Ideology" as you put it to become a way of life and less to do with more ordinary fetishes.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Deleted Member

[MyPleasure]

20 hours ago, eyemblacksheep said:

cherry picking data is intellectually dishonest

To make a general statement such as female supremacy is the best or would be better ruled by particular gender is intellectually dishonest. These were just famous examples of female acts of negativity. What of all the less famous acts of negativity unrecorded?

I believe individuals should be judged for individual qualities, not based on gender and that equality or switching is more the perfect state of affairs.

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4 hours ago, BlushingFlush said:

I don't think it would be better or worse. The growing number of women in politics in recent years have shown to be as eager to send men to wars and do as little about economic inequality or in favour of the environment as men. Tell me I'm cherry picking but Hilary Clinton was going to increase military spending, Theresa May oversaw the windrush scandal, Priti Patel's bullying of staff, Margaret Thatcher - cuts to vital UK industries & the Argentinian ship she blew up on retreat hence the "iron lady". And we all know about the incompetent and/or corrupt male politicians. And of course there are plenty of good female leaders too, like the New Zealand Prime Minister, Sanna Marin, the Finnish PM, etc. Power corrupts regardless of the gender is what |'m trying to say. The institutional changes we need to see for a better world are bigger than gender - that's like changing the face but not the body, the heart of the machinery.

I AGREE TOTALLY!

BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ARE CAPABLE OF NEGATIVE ACTS.

women have been washing things in rivers for years, polluting them. Women have been lighting fires and driving cars polluting the skies. How many clothes do women need? So wasteful of resources. All the other uses for such labour, fields to produce food for starving people instead of  more clothes. They will clothes and products produced by sweat shop slave labour.

I believe judge by individual qualities and behaviour not by broad stereotypes such as sexual preference, sexual gender, colour of skin, age group etc

Edited July 20, 2020 by MyPleasure

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21 minutes ago, MyPleasure said:

BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ARE CAPABLE OF NEGATIVE ACTS.

I don't think anyone has actually disputed this.

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I'm out! You can't reason with arrogance and ignorance of this level. As they say in rural Thailand.... May as well play fiddle to a buffalos ass! 

 

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20 hours ago, Donnykinkster said:

You must think me a fool, eyes, ears and brain closed for the last 51 years. I'm fully aware of the faults they can carry and do not see them through rose tinted glasses, I've seen spite and cruelty from women as I have men. You have a keen mind and much of your argument and points I totally agree with, you were right when you said may be I was thinking more of equality than supremacy when I spoke a few days ago, I did think on that and equality would do me just fine.

 

However I still believe and have for many years now if roles were reversed, let's say overnight it was mainly women who occupied the seats in the House Of Commons or the senate/congress is the States then I think our world would be a much nicer place. Not perfect no but kinder than it is now. I've read all your comments and as I say agree with many but not all. You mention physical strength of men building the world, inventing great things yet not always but mostly behind these great men you speak of was a woman. I draw my own conclusions and this is a loose example I know. You mention strength but what of emotional strength, yes the ladies may cry more at the end of a sad film but that is no true marker of strength. I know without doubt from what I have seen that women posess much much more emotional strength than men, I have no facts or statistics for this, I've seen it time and time again as the years passed by. They are emotionally stronger in general than men, some men may not like me saying that but it's the truth from what I've seen. 

 

If women overnight had control our planet would be cleaner, our young men would not so easily be sent off to slaughter and die themselves. The world would be a better place, in my view. Go take a look at out home, the earth, look at the mess men have made of it in their pursuit of riches, look at our hatred for those of different colour, creed, lifestyle, all notions created by men. Look at how we treat each other, what we are becoming as a race, all driven by men. No we havnt done much of a job at all have we so I wouldn't really go around telling the world how great we are when all you have to do is look outside to see what a top job we've done 😊

Dear DonnyKinkster,

I think you are no fool. I am not criticising you. Infact i am grateful for some of the topics, thoughts and issues you have raised. I agree with you that equality looks to be the best type of model for society. I am not against female doms or male doms however i believe that switching would be the best state for the relationship. I am tolerant of diverse sexual tastes but i am against the idea of female supremacy and see it as extreme sexism and worry what damage could be done to the world if FS were allowed to spread beyond the bedroom. 200 years ago women wanted equality, now they have it but desire supremacy....

I believe every person has both a male and female spirit inside themself, a yin and yang inherited from both father and mother, x and y chromosomes as a psychological character personality. So a man can be in tune with both his feminine and masculine side.

I also agree that behind every great man could be a great woman and a mans life is usually unhappy and unsuccessful without a women. I am not criticising the beauty or amazing wonder that is woman. I am a man and i love woman. I could write books about how much i love women and still not say enough.

Maybe women have more emotional strength? Most men have been taught not to cry or do so rarely and to express humour rather than tears. But men cry alot in secret. If i had £100 for everytime i have cried then i would have a good amount of ***. Ive felt sympathy and compassion though men usually dont act on it all the time. And i am similar.

I am aware of problems in the world and the planet. Ive spent 20 years thinking about and gathering solutions to make a better world. Without boasting too much i think my creative genius has outdone itself in the theoretical perfect world ive created. Few problems that ive not theoretically solved. So here is an example of a man who has been working towards making a better world....

However i have stopped in this endeavour for personal reasons.

(coincidentally, you might say ive decided not to save the world anymore because of woman!)

I can say that solving the worlds problems is very difficult and takes alot of time and effort.  The amount of books you must read, the number of different people to meet, the amount of time in solitary isolation, the amount of self change and transformation required.... I dont know if a woman could do it? A woman wouldnt like the isolation. In some ways men have been taught to do things and women have been taught to ask for things.

The world has a lot of problems. I would blame both men and women for the state of the world. I blame myself and everybody else. If women think they can make world better, let them try. I wash my hands of the matter. I no longer care about the planet or its future. If everything is destroyed tomorrow it no longer matters to me. Ive wasted too much of my life thinking about the needs of humanity and all life on earth. While i was busy trying to save the world i was neglecting my own needs, desires and pleasure. I lost what should have been the best years of my life...

Ironic really, to understand how to solve the problems but to no longer care. Guess you need to love a world to save it and to love it you have got to be loved and pleasured. Maybe i would have been a great man with a great woman at my side?

 

[MyPleasure]

29 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I don't think anyone has actually disputed this.

SO THE LOGIC IS A FEM SUPREME WORLD WOULD HAVE JUST AS MANY PROBLEMS AS THEY ARE DOERS OF NEGATIVITY JUST THE SAME.

Enjoy fem doms if you desire but dont support fem supremacy as ideology because its false and leads to problems.