History, the Church and ***

[Fimus]

Are any of you aware of this account by Johann Burchard? It is disputed, but not inconsistent with what we know of the Borgias. 

"On the evening of the last day of October, 1501, Cesare Borgia arranged a banquet in his chambers in the Vatican with "fifty honest prostitutes", called courtesans, who danced after dinner with the attendants and others who were present, at first in their garments, then naked.[3] After dinner the candelabra with the burning candles were taken from the tables and placed on the floor, and chestnuts were strewn around, which the naked courtesans picked up, creeping on hands and knees between the chandeliers, while the Pope, Cesare, and his *** Lucretia looked on. Finally, prizes were announced for those who could perform the act most often with the courtesans, such as tunics of silk, shoes, barrets, and other things."

[Deleted Member]

Trouble with the church and especially the papal division they don't always understand consent or age restriction. They also major on hypocrisy and denial which ends up being the ultimate self ***. 

#rant