Guys, It’s ok to be angry. Just put it where it belongs

[ma****]

2 minutes ago, sigbro said:

She's literally saying I should blame men for her shitty behavior. 

That isn't what she's saying.

[CopperKnob]

3 minutes ago, sigbro said:

She's literally saying I should blame men for her shitty behavior. 

That's literally not what I said but as I said to another commentor, I'll happily be corrected if you can quote me

[BadBoy-94]

8 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

I feel like you're missing the point completely, shes not advocating anything.. shes saying this is how it is... this happens because arseholes do bad things... so direct your anger there!
But to your points,
1. Nobody said theres anything wrong with being masculine (I'm not sure what a Soy Boy is but it sounds like one of those dumb right wing buzz words insults like woke), but we should always be striving to improve ourselves, to treat people better than our parents did.. default masculine upbringing simply implies you've been brought up with a portion of your values or opinions being a little bit outdated... shit changes... we figure out that some stuff our parents and grandparents did was shitty and that maybe we shouldn't continue it.. we used to behead people if the street ffs 😂 still think that's a good idea?
2.shes not advocating that, it's just a fact... because like it or not men are physically the stronger sex so pose much more threat to a women than visa versa.. imagine a large % of gay guys were 7ft tall, built like the Mountain and didnt give a flying fuck about whether you wanted their attention or not 🤷‍♂️ then add in *** and/or drink on a night out and tell me you wouldn't be wary about walking home alone... and then join a sexually orientated app where these same 7ft asshats can message you directly and spew all kinds of hateful shit into your inbox.. and then imagine half of them are within a 10mile radius and you just might bump into one of them one day..
And then tell me you wouldn't be very fucking cautious about any interaction with them.
3.Go talk to other females, ask them about the shit they have to content with on a daily basis.. also see previous point 😂
4. No.. we shouldn't have to pay... it's not fair.. but it's how it is... that was literally what the OP was about 🤦‍♂️😂

Nobody is angry, pal. So I am not gonna redirect any anger of mine anywhere where it's not due. 

1. From how it was written, OP seems to be criticizing masculinity altogether when in fact she should have focused on specific behaviors that are independent of whether you're a masculine man or not.
2.  In this hypothetical scenario, I would take issue with that specific 7 ft tall gay guy. I wouldn't treat all gay guys as if they were a threat, nor would I indirectly tell others that gay guys should put up with being stereotyped because Mr. 7ft Tall has treated a straight man badly in the past, which OP does. 
3. I have more female friends than male friends. They have dealt with weirdos in the past, but none of them seem to treat all men like a threat because of bad previous experiences with a minority of men. 
4. At least you're acknowledging that it's not fair, unlike OP. 

Points of the story are... don't stereotype... And that I don't want to blame men for the shitty behavior of women.... "🤦‍♂️" 

[Deleted Member]

1 minute ago, CopperKnob said:

That's literally not what I said but as I said to another commentor, I'll happily be corrected if you can quote me

Your entire OP is a rant about it. Terms like "guarded" are euphemisms which really mean being a dick.  One can be "safe" without going to the extremes you do(and then rationalize as normal). 

[Deleted Member]

13 minutes ago, sigbro said:

It's being used to rationalize poor behavior on the part of women. 

Me: I expect direct and honest communication. I don't want to play games and I want to evaluate if we are compatible within a short time - I want to then go on dates(no sex) and decide if we would want to pursue the relationship further. I don't expect the woman I'm dating to be perfect but I do expect her to at least be sincere in investing the time spent and wanting to create a successful relationship.

Women ITT: Stop imposing the patriarchy, *** culture, I'm being e-violated HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with all you have said there. Thank you for all your continual efforts for fairness on behalf of us many offended men. One can only think of the lurkers and many scared to get involved. Your efforts are astounding in such a hostile, aggressive environment where challenge is futile. Dealing with the 5's barrage of mishevious male button pressing focused postings recently you have been a credit to men. Your really brave and have remained calm under impossible circumstances. While others have been broken, others like myself have had to put censoring measures in place to avoid the same rather understandable fate.

Thank you for continually challenging the 5 where there is no apparent moderation.

Hats of to you sir, I wish I had your energy and commitment but alas I have had to put my mental health first and block out the barrage of male ***.

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Deleted Member

[CopperKnob]

5 minutes ago, sigbro said:

Your entire OP is a rant about it. Terms like "guarded" are euphemisms which really mean being a dick.  One can be "safe" without going to the extremes you do(and then rationalize as normal). 

Is it? You've got insight in to my thought process as I typed out the words. Cool beans!!
If you've missed the point of the OP, like others have said, it's aimed at you.
You can thank me some other time 😘

[BadBoy-94]

15 minutes ago, Shirt-n-Tie-Boy said:

@BadBoy-94I totally get your frustration. But your not helping us (men) by showing so visibly it is getting to you. Your really just walking straight into the 5's trap. Most of us just avoid the 5. I suggest you start writing down usernames and going to your account/block section. Once you reduce what you see from the 5's, and the general narrative of men hate and male antagonism, it really makes the forum a bit more constructive. With the reluctance of of the site to moderate the sexist wind up posting, you need to take it into your own hands and avoid the 5. Try it, I have done it and I guarantee it helps so much.

Sad, but true. Sad how a BDSM/Fetish website has become a political place for modern day feminists like OP, GoodGirlBetterBrat, and PJ3000 who are gonna promote the alienation of men and the whole ideas of toxic masculinity.

I had hoped that stuff could have stopped in our universities. Oh well, hopefully the Mods will become more active once July is over.

[CopperKnob]

9 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Nobody is angry, pal. So I am not gonna redirect any anger of mine anywhere where it's not due. 

1. From how it was written, OP seems to be criticizing masculinity altogether when in fact she should have focused on specific behaviors that are independent of whether you're a masculine man or not.
2.  In this hypothetical scenario, I would take issue with that specific 7 ft tall gay guy. I wouldn't treat all gay guys as if they were a threat, nor would I indirectly tell others that gay guys should put up with being stereotyped because Mr. 7ft Tall has treated a straight man badly in the past, which OP does. 
3. I have more female friends than male friends. They have dealt with weirdos in the past, but none of them seem to treat all men like a threat because of bad previous experiences with a minority of men. 
4. At least you're acknowledging that it's not fair, unlike OP. 

Points of the story are... don't stereotype... And that I don't want to blame men for the shitty behavior of women.... "🤦‍♂️" 

And yet, I'm not 🤷‍♀️
If you are taking offence at either the OP or the comments which are sharing the same/similar view, it was written for you.
Like I said to Sigbro, you can thank me some other time, when it actually 'clicks' 😘

[PJ****]

11 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Nobody is angry, pal. So I am not gonna redirect any anger of mine anywhere where it's not due. 

1. From how it was written, OP seems to be criticizing masculinity altogether when in fact she should have focused on specific behaviors that are independent of whether you're a masculine man or not.
2.  In this hypothetical scenario, I would take issue with that specific 7 ft tall gay guy. I wouldn't treat all gay guys as if they were a threat, nor would I indirectly tell others that gay guys should put up with being stereotyped because Mr. 7ft Tall has treated a straight man badly in the past, which OP does. 
3. I have more female friends than male friends. They have dealt with weirdos in the past, but none of them seem to treat all men like a threat because of bad previous experiences with a minority of men. 
4. At least you're acknowledging that it's not fair, unlike OP. 

Points of the story are... don't stereotype... And that I don't want to blame men for the shitty behavior of women.... "🤦‍♂️" 

You might not be, and I'm certainly not.. but some people are angry/frustrated and have vocalised it on this app.. I've seen it. This OP is just a response to that.. another point of view if you will.


I dont know how you read it but I certainly didnt get any booo masculinity bad, yay women great from that 🤷‍♂️


And in that specific scenario if you didnt treat all these humongous horny guys that wanted your sweet sweet ass as a threat then you'd be a fool.. and add onto that, imagine that one (or god forbid several) of these guys that you thought were your friends decided to *** you when you were drunk (cos that shit happens to women at a worryingly high rate) and then have to put up with people suggesting that it was your fault for wearing a tight shirt.. women have their guard up for a reason - sadly it isn't a minority of men, if you are one of the people that conducts themselves with integrity and manners as well then we are the minority .. I hate saying that but it's true!

[CopperKnob]

4 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Sad, but true. Sad how a BDSM/Fetish website has become a political place for modern day feminists like OP, GoodGirlBetterBrat, and PJ3000 who are gonna promote the alienation of men and the whole ideas of toxic masculinity.

I had hoped that stuff could have stopped in our universities. Oh well, hopefully the Mods will become more active once July is over.

You're aware that many don't go to university?
You're aware that the Mods are active all year round?
You accept that toxic masculinity is real?
What is it about feminism that threatens you?

[Deleted Member]

3 minutes ago, CopperKnob said:

Is it? You've got insight in to my thought process as I typed out the words. Cool beans!!
If you've missed the point of the OP, like others have said, it's aimed at you.
You can thank me some other time 😘

Hun, I'm never going to consider your bizarre behavior acceptable. Like I wrote before your loss.  

[BadBoy-94]

11 minutes ago, sigbro said:

Your entire OP is a rant about it. Terms like "guarded" are euphemisms which really mean being a dick.  One can be "safe" without going to the extremes you do(and then rationalize as normal). 

Sigbro, that's what I wrote to her almost an hour ago, as I had hoped she would realize that her OP is pure justification for allowing women to act disrespectfully.

It either won't go through her head, or she's purposefully doing it to promote the mass hysteria of toxic masculinity and whatever modern-day feminists spew. 

But oh well, at least we aren't the ones crying "where have all the good men gone"?....

Edited July 8, 2022 by BadBoy-94
Clarification.

[PJ****]

11 minutes ago, Shirt-n-Tie-Boy said:

Agree with all you have said there. Thank you for all your continual efforts for fairness on behalf of us many offended men. One can only think of the lurkers and many scared to get involved. Your efforts are astounding in such a hostile, aggressive environment where challenge is futile. Dealing with the 5's barrage of mishevious male button pressing focused postings recently you have been a credit to men. Your really brave and have remained calm under impossible circumstances. While others have been broken, others like myself have had to put censoring measures in place to avoid the same rather understandable fate.

Thank you for continually challenging the 5 where there is no apparent moderation.

Hats of to you sir, I wish I had your energy and commitment but alas I have had to put my mental health first and block out the barrage of male ***.

 

Dude.. stop trying to make 'The 5' a thing.. it's not gonna be a thing 😂

[Deleted Member]

4 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Sad, but true. Sad how a BDSM/Fetish website has become a political place for modern day feminists like OP, GoodGirlBetterBrat, and PJ3000 who are gonna promote the alienation of men and the whole ideas of toxic masculinity.

I had hoped that stuff could have stopped in our universities. Oh well, hopefully the Mods will become more active once July is over.

Another tip, never be personal or name. I don't agree with that and the 5 are very cunning and think being clever by hiding behind double meanings. Honestly just start using the block. If you feed the lions by showing the worst of yourself in moments of frustration, they will just feed of it. The block feature is your friend. Consider your mental health and the impact of the *** and give the block feature some thought. I don't have it all sussed but I have realised can make the forum environment more tolerable and palatable by utilising all the control features. Stay well!

Edited July 8, 2022 by Deleted Member

[ge****]

3 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

Dude.. stop trying to make 'The 5' a thing.. it's not gonna be a thing 😂

Besides don't you know you need to get your "5 a day"? 😂🤣

[PJ****]

11 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Sad, but true. Sad how a BDSM/Fetish website has become a political place for modern day feminists like OP, GoodGirlBetterBrat, and PJ3000 who are gonna promote the alienation of men and the whole ideas of toxic masculinity.

I had hoped that stuff could have stopped in our universities. Oh well, hopefully the Mods will become more active once July is over.

That's literally not true.. not a single word. You're really not grasping the handle of this conversation.. I'm not sure why but hey.. I wish you good luck😁 I have a feeling it might be needed.

[BadBoy-94]

6 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

You might not be, and I'm certainly not.. but some people are angry/frustrated and have vocalised it on this app.. I've seen it. This OP is just a response to that.. another point of view if you will.


I dont know how you read it but I certainly didnt get any booo masculinity bad, yay women great from that 🤷‍♂️


And in that specific scenario if you didnt treat all these humongous horny guys that wanted your sweet sweet ass as a threat then you'd be a fool.. and add onto that, imagine that one (or god forbid several) of these guys that you thought were your friends decided to *** you when you were drunk (cos that shit happens to women at a worryingly high rate) and then have to put up with people suggesting that it was your fault for wearing a tight shirt.. women have their guard up for a reason - sadly it isn't a minority of men, if you are one of the people that conducts themselves with integrity and manners as well then we are the minority .. I hate saying that but it's true!

That's correct. I meet people, get a look at their character, and then I judge. And that's how it should be. I don't disregard someone or treat someone as a second-class citizen, just because they happen to be gay like in your aforementioned hypothetical scenario. 

And I have had immoral friends in the past of either gender, just like everyone else. I take it out on those people solely, not all people who have traits that are in align with those of those immoral friends, which is what OP is euphemistically advocation for. 

[CopperKnob]

4 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

Besides don't you know you need to get your "5 a day"? 😂🤣

I don't know about you but I always get my 5 a day.
I was really hoping we could assign ourselves spirit ***s as a nod to the Big Five in Africa but yeah, fruit and veg are really important to our well-being, stay well, safe, and healthy!

[ge****]

6 minutes ago, BadBoy-94 said:

That's correct. I meet people, get a look at their character, and then I judge. And that's how it should be. I don't disregard someone or treat someone as a second-class citizen, just because they happen to be gay like in your aforementioned hypothetical scenario. 

And I have had immoral friends in the past of either gender, just like everyone else. I take it out on those people solely, not all people who have traits that are in align with those of those immoral friends, which is what OP is euphemistically advocation for. 

It's not euphemistically advocating anything of the sort if you actually read it and digest it - it's advocating reacting against those that do behave badly, who do send abusive messages, who do think they only need snap their fingers and women come running.
.
It is absolutely NOT saying that is ALL men, and makes it clear it is SOME men whilst asking for OTHER men to take a stance against those that do behave badly.
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As I and others have said, if you don't behave that way (and from the "whale train" comment I suspect you may) then you have nothing to be concerned about - if you're trying to defend those the OP *is* about then you must align with them.

[BadBoy-94]

19 minutes ago, CopperKnob said:

You're aware that many don't go to university?
You're aware that the Mods are active all year round?
You accept that toxic masculinity is real?
What is it about feminism that threatens you?

Well, in one way or another, I do envy those who went to trade school and not universities. Modern day universities/colleges have become "I hate male" places. 

Nope. I accept that there are shitty people of either gender. But toxic masculinity is not real. Society and everything was built by masculinity & men. I'm terribly sorry to inform you, lady. 

Nothing about feminism threatens me. It's just become a joke lately. The old-fashioned version of feminism was noble. It fought for women being allowed the same rights as men and that women shouldn't be treated differently because of their plumbing.

Modern-day feminism is all about "i have value because I was born with the right plumbing, all men are sexist and that men should put up with shitty behavior and appearances in women because of the bad actions of a few men in the past", which the OP epitomizes pretty well.

Edited July 8, 2022 by BadBoy-94

[PJ****]

1 minute ago, BadBoy-94 said:

Well, in one way or another, I do envy those who went to trade school and not universities. Modern day universities/colleges have become "I hate male" places. 

Nope. I accept that there are shitty people of either gender. But masculinity is not real. Society and everything was built by masculinity & men. I'm terribly sorry to inform you, lady. 

Nothing about feminism threatens me. It's just become a joke lately. The old-fashioned version of feminism was noble. It fought for women being allowed the same rights as men and that women shouldn't be treated differently because of their plumbing.

Modern-day feminism is all about "i have value because I was born with the right plumbing, all men are sexist and that men should put up with shitty behavior and appearances in women because of the bad actions of a few men in the past", which the OP epitomizes pretty well.

That's the most Fox News description of feminism I've ever heard 😂😂 that's so so wrong but hey, you do you

[BadBoy-94]

4 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

It's not euphemistically advocating anything of the sort if you actually read it and digest it - it's advocating reacting against those that do behave badly, who do send abusive messages, who do think they only need snap their fingers and women come running.
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It is absolutely NOT saying that is ALL men, and makes it clear it is SOME men whilst asking for OTHER men to take a stance against those that do behave badly.
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As I and others have said, if you don't behave that way (and from the "whale train" comment I suspect you may) then you have nothing to be concerned about - if you're trying to defend those the OP *is* about then you must align with them.

Gem, with all due respect, all I am reading from her OP is "if a woman treats you rudely, you should be angry at the people from her past who have made her like that and not her". And others on this post who have opposed her thoughts agree, too. 

[Th****]

You know what badboy at the start of this I thought you were totally lacking in empathy and missing the point.

Now though I am almost certain you are deliberately baiting. You are putting a huge amount of effort into not only be laboring the same false statements over and over. You are also careful to make sure that your posts have enough offensive comments to keep people coming back.

I hope you enjoyed the attention. Feel free to insult me anyway you wish as you are blocked.

[BadBoy-94]

20 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

That's literally not true.. not a single word. You're really not grasping the handle of this conversation.. I'm not sure why but hey.. I wish you good luck😁 I have a feeling it might be needed.

In that case, everyone who opposes OP's idea of "if a woman treats you in a undignified manner, it's because of some creepy guys she has met in the past", isn't grasping the handle of this conversation. 

I think we are grasping the handle of this conversation pretty well. It's all about who we should blame for our problems? Ourselves? Or others? I think the mature thing to do is to blame ourselves for our problems.

[BadBoy-94]

7 minutes ago, Thebian said:

You know what badboy at the start of this I thought you were totally lacking in empathy and missing the point.

Now though I am almost certain you are deliberately baiting. You are putting a huge amount of effort into not only be laboring the same false statements over and over. You are also careful to make sure that your posts have enough offensive comments to keep people coming back.

I hope you enjoyed the attention. Feel free to insult me anyway you wish as you are blocked.

I see no reason to insult you.