Trained/Conditioned

[Li****]

5 hours ago, mrJhon said:

Well I think that either you misunderstood those messages or they were badly written. To put it simply I always discuss with my subs beforehand to know what they wanna learn/improve on and knowing that I would train/teach her in a more playful way.

I'm pretty sure I didn't misunderstand as I've specifically included in my post what they've said word for word.
I've also asked what they meant to clarify and made clear, what I'm not about or seeking.
A quick glance of your profile confirms you have that same one track mindset as some mentioned, thinking that there is only one definition of a Submissive Woman.
But thanks for the time it took commenting anyway

[Deleted Member]

Well than you can stop talking to him block him if needed. As for my profile if you didn't like it, it is simply because it's not aimed for subs like you 😏. Which is fine it's save me a lot of time.

[Li****]

2 hours ago, mrJhon said:

Well than you can stop talking to him block him if needed. As for my profile if you didn't like it, it is simply because it's not aimed for subs like you 😏. Which is fine it's save me a lot of time.

The purpose of creating a discussion was to see other viewpoints (especially sub females) instead of just my own to gain perspective and learn from a community instead of one mindset.
I know my options in managing the one chat.
It's fine that your profile isn't aimed at subs like me, of course. It saves us all the time🙌🏼

[ju****]

I feel that it's all a personal preference. Some submissive's enjoy that, and some don't, and that is fine, this lifestyle has so many options and different types of people. Me personally as a male submissive I wouldn't mind being trained/taught how to please my dominant. That doesn't mean changing who I am as a person, it just means teaching me what they like. And vise versa

[Li****]

2 hours ago, justin4fun said:

I feel that it's all a personal preference. Some submissive's enjoy that, and some don't, and that is fine, this lifestyle has so many options and different types of people. Me personally as a male submissive I wouldn't mind being trained/taught how to please my dominant. That doesn't mean changing who I am as a person, it just means teaching me what they like. And vise versa

I can respect that.
I just value it as we should teach each other how to be each others liveability.
We should want to be each others advocate of all things good and consensual. And for me, I don't need to be told "I need to be broken" to be their ideal. We should naturally just want to be each others and understand each others limits, likes, dislikes, turn ons, and so on.
For a man to tell me "I need to be" is so unappealing and likely to have me withdraw than be seen as respected the same, if you get me?

[Deleted Member]

Nothing worth while comes with ease. You gotta bring value to get value. Only soy boys think they can get a sub woman by simply asking the internet to bring them one without needing to be valuable themselves. #geeks

[Alpha88inu]

The whole idea of a dominant submission relationship is to make your woman or girl little want to submit to you and not having to *** her to do it but you do have to set expectations likes and agree upon this that's different in each case

[Ho****]

I also feel like some training, or at least for me, is training a sub to be more trusting of a dom to go closer to their limits (not beyond, but right up to that line). Kinda seeing it as flipped, I say I'm training them but really they're training me to understand them better. Trust and action...idk if that's even close to what you meant or makes sense😅

[Li****]

3 hours ago, Holmes-Daddy said:

I also feel like some training, or at least for me, is training a sub to be more trusting of a dom to go closer to their limits (not beyond, but right up to that line). Kinda seeing it as flipped, I say I'm training them but really they're training me to understand them better. Trust and action...idk if that's even close to what you meant or makes sense😅

I said I felt more inclined to want open communication where both express what's allowed, what's not, what's liked, what's really disliked, what might want explored (soft limits) and what's a complete no-no. Which is just openly being honest in what's desired and not. Not having to "break", "train", "condition".
It's just learning each other equally. Someone doesn't have to go the extreme of basically saying- "no, I've heard your boundaries and dislikes, but we do what I say and you do what I want".
I've literally had a guy tell me I "came with attitude" and he'd "fix that"😂🤦🏽‍♀️. Like, no. I don't want "fixed".
And being so rude, I'd much quicker tell him to "f* off" than ever trust him with any of me- mind, emotion, body😂.

I don't understand the sense of entitlement to just expect a woman and/or (sub) to bow down and dish out commands!! That isn't how to explain every single D/s relationship. Some? Maybe. Some not? Also true.

Nowhere on my profile does it present to speak to me like that or assume they can, yet they do. *dramatic sigh*

[gu****]

To me your post is like the equivalent of saying porn is an ick because porn is unrealistic and to some sence thats valid but...just because you are not into it doesnt mean its bad automatically lol It also seems like there's some confusion between role play and reality here aswell

[Li****]

Sunday at 05:35 PM, gurthychub said:

To me your post is like the equivalent of saying porn is an ick because porn is unrealistic and to some sence thats valid but...just because you are not into it doesnt mean its bad automatically lol It also seems like there's some confusion between role play and reality here aswell

Explain how there's any confusion on role play and reality? (I've also never mentioned any role play as this was never the context or an expressed interest)
How on earth is it anywhere near what I've written on my post, by saying- "porn is an ick because porn is unrealistic"?
I've said that specific wording, phrasing, such as "breaking a sub", "I'll happily condition you for my needs", and being told that my "no's" are going to be ignored because they will "sort that out" is my ick. My personal disliking for how I'd expect to be approached.
That's nowhere near what you're insinuating as similar about an entire industry being porn.

[Lo****]

Well said

[CopperKnob]

April 6, 2023, Vulkan-8006 said:

Maybe it’s just semantics, but for me “training” means either following and supporting subs in their learning journey, or training expert subs into learning what the Dom expects from them. There’s probably always a “phase” of training, even as a Dom I feel in “training” the first couple times, when things are not yet crystal clear.

You could call it “onboarding” and it would have the same meaning to me. Maybe just less erotic lol

Or, maybe it's really learning about each other's likes, dislikes, preferences. Kinda like any other relationship.