M/s vs. D/s

[Va****]

Help me out here. My understanding was that M/s is a whole different relationship that D/s, with totally different parameters.
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I know every matched set is (should be) a unique and well discussed negotiation, but is there a natural overlap here, or just by some?

[ey****]

19 hours ago, VanIsleBorn said:

Help me out here. My understanding was that M/s is a whole different relationship that D/s, with totally different parameters.
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I know every matched set is (should be) a unique and well discussed negotiation, but is there a natural overlap here, or just by some?

some people will tell you that - but honestly, there's so much overlap and so much transferable they are effectively the same thing

it's about finding the title that you feel most comfortable with

because there's so much overlap, so much transferable and so much where so many people have so many different ideas even with what they call D/s or M/s or O/p or whatever - that communication on what works for you both and how you both want to pursue your dynamic 

[Au****]

As a true slave, to the core of myself, one that has her rol as her identity, I can say that though a D/s relationship can evolve into a M/s, not all of us can go through the M/s first. I don’t feel safe having to have a safe word, for example (one of many. Is not only about that). If I have to, better don’t be with him as I don’t trust him. But we do inform when something is wrong, just don’t decide the course of action; the Master does. So for me starting with a D/s is not an option as it doesn’t cover my emotional needs. I rather take the time to get to know and trust at the only level I can manage and accept. A safe word put in the hands of a slave a power that makes her anxious and restless, and a responsibility that she NEEDS to give up in order to feel free and whole and protected and cared for. So not the same. One can lead to the other, but for a sub who later discovers she is in fact a slave. But for a built slave, I think it would me difficult to manage the D/s first.

[Va****]

52 minutes ago, AuroraBoreal said:

As a true slave, to the core of myself, one that has her rol as her identity, I can say that though a D/s relationship can evolve into a M/s, not all of us can go through the M/s first. I don’t feel safe having to have a safe word, for example (one of many. Is not only about that). If I have to, better don’t be with him as I don’t trust him. But we do inform when something is wrong, just don’t decide the course of action; the Master does. So for me starting with a D/s is not an option as it doesn’t cover my emotional needs. I rather take the time to get to know and trust at the only level I can manage and accept. A safe word put in the hands of a slave a power that makes her anxious and restless, and a responsibility that she NEEDS to give up in order to feel free and whole and protected and cared for. So not the same. One can lead to the other, but for a sub who later discovers she is in fact a slave. But for a built slave, I think it would me difficult to manage the D/s first.

Well said. Thank you.