Non-monogomous doms

[No****]

Although Dom and sub and master and slave are both power dynamic agreements there are still more than a few subtle differences. There are far more commonalities than there are differences which makes it difficult for a lot of people to discern the difference between the two. Really the terminology of Master slave should transition to more of contract servitude or something along those lines. The problem is is most people don't do their research or spend time learning the craft of the lifestyle. Both diamond sub and a master and slave are dynamics where one party shifts control to another both have a high tendency of using safe words. I would hope that the communication and trust that you and your partner place in one another would never put you in a situation where you end up in court but if it does that is why it is a very important thing to have everything well documented. Always make sure you have consent.

[Sc****]

Well put. I think the casual use of the term slave as "someone who does my bidding muahah" has been a large contributor.

[bi****]

The moment that the sub can not allow or dus allow any thing is totally wrong if a true dom then they know it is the sub that controls the relationship the sub sets thier boundrys on all aspects of the relationship they set the limits in bdsm abd the dom should respect them they give to permission and amount of control they want in the relationship if the dom is not excepting thus abd trying to impose thier choices and will on the sub then they are nit a dom they are an ***r .
As for being open relationship that us something that the dom and sub should sort abd agree on and both should agree it is thier choice if one can meet others or both

[di****]

It is in the contract do not allow topping from the bottom. Vanilla relationships are moving into bdsm.

A master slave is a fuul time not a weekend warrior.
I am not a full time Dom, we negoiate boundries and play after care see you at next event. When we meet in public what happens in club stays in club
Is nice to see them street clothes and see naked in club.
Today way to much exoected by women today
Go to va
Nilla clubs all women no men

[De****]

A Dom only has the power that a sub chooses to give them. A sub can always revoke consent on anything and not consent to anything. So no, a Dom does not get to be non-monogamous if they want, just because they are a Dom. Nor does a Dom have a right to make unilateral decisions without a sub’s consent. Submission is a gift that is given to a worthy Dom. No real Dom would *** non-monogamy on their sub, that’s not BDSM. That’s ***.

[De****]

Also, if you can’t tells the difference between BDSM and *** you should not be doing D/s

[De****]

1 hour ago, biker13uk said:

The moment that the sub can not allow or dus allow any thing is totally wrong if a true dom then they know it is the sub that controls the relationship the sub sets thier boundrys on all aspects of the relationship they set the limits in bdsm abd the dom should respect them they give to permission and amount of control they want in the relationship if the dom is not excepting thus abd trying to impose thier choices and will on the sub then they are nit a dom they are an ***r .
As for being open relationship that us something that the dom and sub should sort abd agree on and both should agree it is thier choice if one can meet others or both

Beautifully put

[di****]

Denver kitten all in negoiation.. some are fun to play with others are bat shit crazy

[No****]

2 hours ago, DenverKitten said:

Also, if you can’t tells the difference between BDSM and *** you should not be doing D/s

I absolutely agree

[iw****]

Your definition of a sub is incredibly skewed. A sub absolutely defines what can and cant be done and defines the lines the dom colors in. That being said if the sub isnt comfortable with non monogamy and the dom is pressing for it, thee sub should terminate that relationship. As with any other limit.

[Ki****]

It is if that is what is agreed. If that is not agreed, then it is not.

[ca****]

15 hours ago, ScalpelPrecision said:

 

I think some people in this thread might be conflating "sub" with "slave". Two wholly different arrangements.

Thanks for your thoughts, in this circumstance they are incorrect.   Which is not to say they aren't still your thoughts

 

Edited December 13, 2024 by callipygian

[Sc****]

9 minutes ago, callipygian said:

Thanks for your thoughts, in this circumstance they are incorrect.   Which is not to say they aren't still your thoughts

 

Appreciate your enrichment of the conversation. It's such a good thread, you might want to read it twice.

[ca****]

14 minutes ago, ScalpelPrecision said:

Appreciate your enrichment of the conversation. It's such a good thread, you might want to read it twice.

No need, but thanks again.

Edited December 13, 2024 by callipygian

[Ki****]

After all, are you a real submissive or not? Think about it... You shouldn't question this. If in doubt, you should hand over the collar. If you don't do this, your dominant should release you.

[di****]

A master/slave agreement is negoiated.

Dom/ sub agreement is it full time or weekend warrior?

Vanilla standards are not the same

Years ago shock jock tom lycos on sydicated radio. Women would line up in bar live broadcast for him to otagraph their boobs

To day online shock jocks

Dating - women do online datimg all looking for top 2% of men.

Twenty something looking for white pickst fence and a baby.

Men are fed up with govern.ent pre nup

[ca****]

22 hours ago, ScalpelPrecision said:

 

I think some people in this thread might be conflating "sub" with "slave". Two wholly different arrangements.

I reckon the confusion has arisen from you quoting a reply of mine that was in another thread (not this one)..... that would explain your confusion maybe??

[Sc****]

1 hour ago, callipygian said:

I reckon the confusion has arisen from you quoting a reply of mine that was in another thread (not this one)..... that would explain your confusion maybe??

J'Accuse!

Friend, I'm not sure why your message is quoted as it has nothing to do with this conversation at all, and I clearly addressed the other quote in my response. Yours had no context or bearing, and couldn't even be misconstrued to have such, on the conversation. I'm confused as how you came to think that what I wrote had anything to do with  you.

I will say, your urgency to adopt a passive-aggressive stance toward me, immediately attempting to instill shame in me for "being wrong", speaks volumes. It's entirely unnecessary and juvenile, but moreso laughable, because it's completely baseless.

It's like I said "the sky is blue" and you popped your head up out of your little gopher hole and shrilly offer "No, it's not! You're delusional! But, live in your delusions, mad man!"

I hope it's clear now that I had not even read your quote until composing this reply. I hope knowing this helps you move on. I also suggest you look into therapy to address your insecurities rather than inflict them on those enjoying conversation on a public forum.

Edited December 13, 2024 by ScalpelPrecision
grammar

[Ki****]

I’ve been in this lifestyle for 10 years. I’m polyamorous, have multiple play partners and two serious sub partners and we have a 24/7 dynamic. They are both collared. I cannot be clearer on this. No, a sub is NOT required to morally allow their dom to be with other people. A sub CAN allow or disallow anything, by definition. Subs still have autonomy and are entitled to their own needs. Even 24/7 total power exchange slaves have a right to express their needs, and to be monogamous if that’s what they want. Kink is always a negotiation, unless the sub willingly, and enthusiastically gives informed consent. Kink should be a negotiation that ensures both parties get what they need. It is NOT solely about what the Dom wants. It’s about what both want. After that decisions is made, subs may chosen to no longer have control, but ultimately they always have the right to withdraw consent, and renegotiate.

[Deleted Member]

9 hours ago, KinkyPerversions said:

After all, are you a real submissive or not? Think about it... You shouldn't question this. If in doubt, you should hand over the collar. If you don't do this, your dominant should release you.

@kinkyperversions you need to get dominated by a guy so hard you fall in love with him and then see how it feels when they smash other guys.


F you

[ca****]

7 hours ago, ScalpelPrecision said:

J'Accuse!

Friend, I'm not sure why your message is quoted as it has nothing to do with this conversation at all, and I clearly addressed the other quote in my response. Yours had no context or bearing, and couldn't even be misconstrued to have such, on the conversation. I'm confused as how you came to think that what I wrote had anything to do with  you.

I will say, your urgency to adopt a passive-aggressive stance toward me, immediately attempting to instill shame in me for "being wrong", speaks volumes. It's entirely unnecessary and juvenile, but moreso laughable, because it's completely baseless.

It's like I said "the sky is blue" and you popped your head up out of your little gopher hole and shrilly offer "No, it's not! You're delusional! But, live in your delusions, mad man!"

I hope it's clear now that I had not even read your quote until composing this reply. I hope knowing this helps you move on. I also suggest you look into therapy to address your insecurities rather than inflict them on those enjoying conversation on a public forum.

 

It is pretty obvious how I thought you were making a reference to my reply ... it is quoted in your reply!!!  

Are you saying you didnt quote it then... yet it appears in one of your replies to this thread...   We shall have to put this down to a malfunction of the technology  or operator error!!!  (personally I dont give two hoots which it is)  ...........similarly to how I feel about the rest of the twaddle you wrote above...  

 

[Un****]

12 hours ago, dildomechanic2024 said:

A master/slave agreement is negoiated.

Dom/ sub agreement is it full time or weekend warrior?

Vanilla standards are not the same

Years ago shock jock tom lycos on sydicated radio. Women would line up in bar live broadcast for him to otagraph their boobs

To day online shock jocks

Dating - women do online datimg all looking for top 2% of men.

Twenty something looking for white pickst fence and a baby.

Men are fed up with govern.ent pre nup

Do you need a ride to the hospital grandfather? you seem to be having a stroke. We are worried about you.

[di****]

Just old school to many subs top from the bottom main stream america not cultures with 1,000 of years

[su****]

I believe it depends on what the individuals agree to. But I also believe that the power belongs to the submissive/slave:- without freely given submission the D/ has no control. Overall it is a matter of consent, submission & free will.

[Sc****]

On 12/13/2024 at 6:17 PM, callipygian said:

 

It is pretty obvious how I thought you were making a reference to my reply ... it is quoted in your reply!!!  

Are you saying you didnt quote it then... yet it appears in one of your replies to this thread...   We shall have to put this down to a malfunction of the technology  or operator error!!!  (personally I dont give two hoots which it is)  ...........similarly to how I feel about the rest of the twaddle you wrote above...  

 

Yes, either an error on my part or the site. I don't know how your reply from an entirely different thread got in there as I did not select or have anything to say about your words. I am sure if I wanted a glaring example of someone misunderstanding the differences in sub/slave dynamics it would not have to be very deep. I wouldn't do that though, I'm an affable guy. The dagger only comes out after someone else unsheaths theirs. 

So now that you see my point, we'll let your twaddle cancel out mine and move along I hope