guys or girls?

[Lo****]

Why not cut the crap and text already 😄 it’s a hard year already, don’t make it harder for yourself! That’s what I’ll do anyway! 🥤🌝

[Ravenlvsoral]

Think if the girl likes the guy make her move and message him time to short to standby

[LA****]

Message who you want when you want. It’s your life enjoy it:)

[Deleted Member]

Average women expect men to do all the work when it comes to courting however average men are overworked. 1 in 50 women might responded men, 1 in 200 might be a good connection for her. This is partly why women get generic “hey how are you” messages, it’s because it’s a waste of his time to put that much effort into 199 messages that definitely aren’t going to go anywhere even if he does put in effort. You could say the same for women, it takes a lot of effort to respond to the many messages they get. So the solution is put effort in your profile to establish connection with the right person. Generic profiles are going to provoke generic connections. As for women making the first contact, that shows me she knows what she wants.

[Deleted Member]

Absolutely. Women shouldn’t be afraid to make the first move at all. Plus it gives guys confidence.

[Deleted Member]

Personally i find it refreshing and makes it easier to open up to the other party

[RainbowCollar]

I prefer for the guy to message first. I might like or respond to a post but I wouldn't directly message

[Deleted Member]

  On 12/28/2020 at 1:10 PM, Walther said:

Average women expect men to do all the work when it comes to courting however average men are overworked. 1 in 50 women might responded men, 1 in 200 might be a good connection for her. This is partly why women get generic “hey how are you” messages, it’s because it’s a waste of his time to put that much effort into 199 messages that definitely aren’t going to go anywhere even if he does put in effort. You could say the same for women, it takes a lot of effort to respond to the many messages they get. So the solution is put effort in your profile to establish connection with the right person. Generic profiles are going to provoke generic connections. As for women making the first contact, that shows me she knows what she wants.

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I agree with some of what you’ve said here - putting effort into your profile is certainly a good idea. I dislike the accusation that the average woman (that’s most of us then) “expects men to do all the work”.  You’re ascribing that stock motivation to women unfairly given the replies from many of them on this thread. 
You’re also ignoring the number of men looking for women on the site outnumbering women hoping to find a connection. Not a casual fuck - a connection. (Not that anything is wrong with a casual fuck 😏). As has been commented many times, a decent % of men on this site just think kinky women are an easy score. Also missing from your analysis is recognition of other ways to meet and talk to women on the site. An alternative to sending 200 low-value messages to women who (with any sense) will not reply.  

[th****]

Go after the things you want man or woman. Apologize later if necessary

[Deleted Member]

Ladies first is great, especially if you’re a slave

[Ky****]

before i accepted who i was i was defn of mindset that its up to the guy to make the first move, the girl signaled her interest by her clothing, makeup, gestures etc.  that admittedly was pre online dating.  online has changed things though so now i don't think it matters.  although for the more old fashioned of us it is nice for the man to make the first move, although that can depend on your kink, part of he guy make the first move was based on the idea that only a certain kind of girl would initiate contact, so if your kink is pretending to be that sort of girl its great to chase the guys

[Cy****]

girls should message first. every good dude knows women get hit up wayy to much by rude guys. so those of us with respect. give yall space.

[Da****]

Definitely go for what you want.

[Zg****]

I always messege first. I think it at least tells them I’m interested

[MasterScorpio]

  On 12/21/2020 at 7:24 PM, Taken-Elizabeth said:

I really appreciate your input and opinions!! This has helped me a lot! and I hope it has helped others too!
<3 eli

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I have tried to contact you and I get message that you are using filter that prohibits me from messaging you

[Ar****]

  2 hours ago, MasterScorpio said:

I have tried to contact you and I get message that you are using filter that prohibits me from messaging you

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Then she doesn't want to hear from you and there is no need to comment on her thread unless it is to contribute. Please don't be another one of those entitled pricks who doesn't respect (understand?) boundaries and consent.

[Deleted Member]

If you want, go ahead!

[Deleted Member]

The gesture of reaching out first demonstrates an upfront (honest) nature within a woman and it is extremely appealing, whether she’s a sub/dom. It shows that upfront effort to communicate like a rockstar which makes her off the charts hot! So, have at it girl! Reach out to those boys and show them how good communication can feel!

[Deleted Member]

I don’t think it matters who does it first. Just go with your gut. Unless the profile says otherwise.

[Deleted Member]

Prefer either to message first. It shouldn’t always be the man imo

[gr****]

I love when a lady goes after what she wants. Even better if its me!

[si****]

Girls ofcourse for me

[sexwith-aghost13]

I think whoever initiates the like on photos or whoever spanks first should message because you showed interest first. Now if its based off of profile and you see a persons profile that you would be interested in message first, the other person is obviously not gonna know if you are interested unless you say so

[Deleted Member]

as a Dom i prefer it when subs message me, doesnt matter what gender they are.

[Deleted Member]

I’m sometimes oblivious if someone is interested in me, so always glad to receive a message that might be a surprise to me. Generally I message first though and like to take the lead