'Alphas'

[Cu****]

Welcome to my first post....lol mostly i write observationally on what i encounter in the sphere of my D/s existence.

This post relates to a recent email on another site from someone half my age identifying herself as an alpha sub.

 

Her approach to me was more along the lines of an approach i have come to expect from Dommes. It was demanding, curt and lacking in respect (not that Dommes lack respect but several recent contacts have all had similar arrogance that i often associate with wannabees). Her whole email did not match her profile needs either.

So when is a sub not a sub? What is an alpha sub? After replying to her email and question within, it has been silence. To me thats ***y ruder.

[Deleted Member]

So rude! Poor you :( It's never nice when someone is rude to you,and even worse when you have tried to explain your side.I suppose an alpha sub might be construed as a brat in bdsm parlance. I hope it's not upset you to much curvygirl;magnificent curves at that may I say! and you don't get any more disrespectful people.There is no excuse for bad manners.

[ey****]

"alpha sub" (like "alpha... anything") is just a bullshit term

among anything else - the alpha is the leader (not really possible if you're the sub, ha) but most likely to look after the rest of the pack and make sure their needs are met (which I guess is kinda subby in some ways)

so a sub demanding stuff from you certainly isn't 'alpha' 

[qu****]

From chatting with the odd Dom and subs it was explained to me to be a term used when a Dom had more than one sub and usually the first sub they owned in a Master/slave sense, and as such had certain privalages, other subs had to defer to her not in a domme sense but more as an older *** there to give advice, help etc, and if over stepping her position of responsibility strict punishment followed, and no, rudeness wasn't tolerated either

Edited July 20, 2021 by quietlysure
Wrong vowel

[Adamc90]

I had found a similar situation in a group. A guy saying they were alpha little because someone else had labelled them as it. I assume it means looking after other littles in the group but to me it was mroe an excuse to be a little around the girls and macho around men, throwing weight around and bravado.

[Phoenyx]

2 hours ago, quietlysure said:

From chatting with the odd Dom and subs it was explained to me to be a term used when a Dom had more than one sub and usually the first sub they owned in a Master/slave sense, and as such had certain privalages, other subs had to defer to her not in a domme sense but more as an older *** there to give advice, help etc, and if over stepping her position of responsibility strict punishment followed, and no, rudeness wasn't tolerated either

That would a be a "First Prime", for those of us that have followed the Stargate TV series.  And yes, I have used that term.  Most folks here know my sense of humor.

On the question at-hand, though, this sounds a bit like what has been called, "topping from the bottom".  More specifically, this may be someone who has a naturally dominant personality.  She wishes to become more active in The Scene.  However, being rather inexperienced, logic dictates to come in as a sub.  She may not even be aware of her in-born dominant nature.  The rudeness may be an instinctive defensive reaction.

Still, that is no excuse.  One of the key things of being a Dom/me, is understanding and controlling one's own nature.  She may eventually learn, if she sticks with it.  The "vanilla" world tends to take a dim view of naturally dominant personalities.  They do not fit into the corporate, lockstep mentality of our work-a-day world.  Such folks are often marginalized.  There may be a lot of repressed anger, due to this.  Some coaching by an experienced Dom/me may be necessary.

[Deleted Member]

I went to a munch, I think on here, in which the term alpha sub was debated. There were some who said that it was an old guard term for a sub that was in charge of a group of subs serving in a house etc, and other said that it was a strong sub who was looking for a dominant who could ... I guess tame them for want of a better word. At the risk of sounding arrogant or up myself or any other synonym you might want to use 🤣 I could see myself reflected in that secondary definition. However, that doesn't put me above anybody else, sub or Dom/me, and it doesn't give me the right to be a cheeky twat. Sounds a bit like this is the kind of person who also gets brats a bad name, using a label as an excuse for being a bit of a dick?

[Jettman9]

I am inferior to you

[ey****]

I guess - to come down a bit

If a Dominant has a bunch of subs, or is in a scenario where there are a bunch of subs - then - there could be an 'Alpha Sub' - but their role would be - in my mind - to assist the Dominant with the other subs.  Which could be for example - making sure the subs have what they need, aren't feeling left behind, perhaps if the Dominant isn't in an immediate position to give aftercare then the 'Alpha Sub' could assist with it.

It wouldn't be to top from the bottom, to try to push ahead of other subs at their expense - and I think too many wrongly use this as an excuse for being a pushy shite.

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Arguably the other day when I was running a film day and trying to make sure the other subs had snacks, drinks, enemas(!), etc whilst also making sure they were happy to have as many scenes as they would reasonably expect - then I was possibly in an alpha role.