Fake accounts

[ge****]

  1 hour ago, switch6962 said:

Be careful of any requests to go off FETISH onto another platform, I would say.
I was invited or pressurised onto all sorts.

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I think that's where gut instinct and common sense come into play though - would I go off platform with someone I'd only just started chatting to, or didn't feel I knew well enough to do so? Absolutely not.
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Would I go off platform with someone I had built a connection and level of trust with? Absolutely I would and have done, in fact if anything I prefer to as it's a lot easier to dip in and out of a messaging app, and the chat is a little more free flowing.
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The key is being able to distinguish when there's sufficient connection and trust in place to do so.

[Deleted Member]

Ok thanks

[Deleted Member]

Thanks for that as well.

[Deleted Member]

There are sincere people to be trusted on another platform.

[ey****]

  1 hour ago, switch6962 said:

There are sincere people to be trusted on another platform.

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there are also fake people on other platforms

and sincere people here.

it's not quite so mutually exclusive

[Deleted Member]

Yes, point taken. I found there is generally no need to move to another platform. There is discretion and good guardianship on FET!
I am talking to two sincere people on here ,as well as the sincere and honest people on these threads.

[RAMB]

I have found 3 people that have been using over 8 different names for the same person,the picture is very real,but they were just someone using the poor girls pictures i know the girls but which one is the real one is unknown

[Li****]

Haven't had that but I had someone trying to get me to pay for videos, I don't want videos I want to find someone to do the real thing with I'm new to this whole BDSM rule but want to learn everything and anything that I can

[Deleted Member]

It’s insane. There are dozens of fake accounts made day after day and some of them are so obvious it’s frightening that there is any kind of moderation or security done in this platform. If they are allowing it purposely to inflate user numbers and individual areas then it’s majorly off putting. If not…maybe some actual security?

[ey****]

  55 minutes ago, DomDiddyDom said:

It’s insane. There are dozens of fake accounts made day after day and some of them are so obvious it’s frightening that there is any kind of moderation or security done in this platform. If they are allowing it purposely to inflate user numbers and individual areas then it’s majorly off putting. If not…maybe some actual security?

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this morning I woke up to a new message and found that the user had already been removed 

I think the site is often relatively quick at getting people checked or removed - but a lot actually have to do something first - you can't actually just start pointing fingers and saying everyone is fake.

Incidentally.  You have not verified your own profile.  

To a degree... it'd be nice if there was a system where users had to be verified before they could use the site - BUT - this is awfully exclusionary and comes with it's own problems.   Another site has just started rolling out a "Get Verified" program which encourages people to do a basic fakecheck and (a) it's really easy to navigate around (b) has received an awful lot of backlash

 

[Deleted Member]

Didn’t say everyone was fake, I said dozens of accounts a day are fake which is 100% true. Your right I haven’t verified my account…see the problem?

[Deleted Member]

I count 15 in the past 5 hours.

[ey****]

I feel that the problem of fake is one that exists on pretty much every platform and is one with no perfect solution

I think that forcing uses to verify to use sites can attract suspicion of the site, and of course plenty of privacy and security concerns - it's also exclusionary 

I also think that mandatory verification can also bring in it's own false sense of security 

Fake accounts are frustrating but then this ties in with things users should be wary of on any platform 

[ge****]

  20 minutes ago, DomDiddyDom said:

I count 15 in the past 5 hours.

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To eyem's point though - how do you *know* beyond any doubt whatsoever that they are "fake"? Yes there are some where you can hazard a reasonable guess that they are, but no-one, including the site, can know for absolute certainty that they are until they start interacting in some way - see the problem?
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I don't deny that sites like this have their share of fakes and that will always be the case unfortunately - but until they "out" themselves in some way it's not guaranteed they are.
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I'd also argue that it's not 100% the site's responsibility to weed them out - they can't possibly have the time or resource to vet every single user - even with mandatory verification for all you'll still get those who find a way round it - so it's as much the responsibility of other users to be aware and protect themselves, and report any possible fakes so they can be checked, as it is the site.
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Too often you see people bemoaning fakes or having been scammed by one, when with a little common sense and awareness they could have protected themselves.

[Deleted Member]

I’m flabbergasted other paying users are just accepting this.

[Deleted Member]

I’ve been stung but that was due to my own sub frenzy. If we keep levelheaded we can see scammers and fakes coming .I found that I mustn’t rush!

[ge****]

  11 minutes ago, DomDiddyDom said:

I’m flabbergasted other paying users are just accepting this.

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Firstly I'm not paying for anything and secondly I didn't say I accepted it - I said I recognised it happens and that it's as much my responsibility as it is the site's to do something about it.
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I just protect myself and take the necessary common sense steps to do so, and to date have not been taken in by a fake in years and years of using sites like this, so I'm obviously doing something right.

[ey****]

  7 minutes ago, DomDiddyDom said:

I’m flabbergasted other paying users are just accepting this.

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a lot of people find it frustrating - but there's still a lot that is important

Among anything else.  You actually, can't, hand on heart - be certain anyone is fake.  Even if a lot doesn't look right - there might be tells, but rarely evidence

 

[ey****]

if the site really wanted to make *** from fakes they'd do the Ashley Maddison trick, which was filling the site full of fake women - charging men to message them - and then messaging backwards and forwards as if they were real.... that would be a much more lucrative way of doing things.

[Deleted Member]

You have a point there, but I do think the process needs to be made a little more robust.

[ey****]

Also, if it helps
In your message settings you can set it so only people who have passed fake check can message you.  That should make a massive difference to fake accounts being able to contact you.

It does feel a bit daft that in the search function you can't select to only view verified people - I might raise that as a suggestion to support.

[ey****]

I think the kinda problem as I say - and it sucks this is true, but here we are.... people get very wary about personal data.  

If you have a site which insists on verification as a terms of usage it's a massive turnoff because people remember things like the Ashley Maddison leak and other leaks and don't want to effectively find a leaked document showing they were on such a site.

It is always more effective to have someone on a site and being able to use it, allow them to build trust in the site, whilst giving them incentives to verify.

I won't go through some of the tricks I am aware of, but, a lot of verification systems do have side steps - so for example a guy might talk to a lady and ask her to send him something to "prove she is real" and he then takes what she gave him to verify as her on another site

So you then get into the OTT - "go and buy today's newspaper and take a photo next to a red postbox" style of verification which is deeply frustrating to users.

[gr****]

100s of them.

[ge****]

  7 hours ago, grneye24 said:

100s of them.

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There are but they are also usually very easily spotted and therefore avoided - common "tells" include:
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- Limited or very generic profile text
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- Blatantly crude profile text if it's a female profile
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- Either limited or very "stock" profile pics
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- Profile pics that can be reverse imaged to numerous other sites
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- They message you with a "too good to be true" message - for example a 20 year old woman who has "model" looks, messaging a 50 year old man offering herself on a plate.
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- Usernames that either make no sense or are very generic.
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And there are others along similar lines.
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Now none of the above automatically mean they are fake but most of them would be red flags to me and raise my suspicions.
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The trouble is, for various reasons, many men are so appreciative of the attention that they leave themselves open to approaches from "fake" profiles that are out to exploit them.

[xs****]

I’ve run across dozens myself, and can usually pick up on it within the first few messages. Most of the time I play along, see how far the conversation goes. It’s ridiculous that these frauds think they can lure people into some kind of phishing scam..

One of the best tricks I’ve found, is to ask the person to identify a business, after giving them the major crossroads in whatever city is on their profile. If they actually live in the city, this should be common knowledge, and if they’re actually legitimate, they’ll be able to answer intelligently, and quickly.

In most cases the phishing individual, won’t know, won’t do the research, and find it too much trouble to look it up. In which case they’ll know you’ve caught on, and you can openly explain how proud you are for wasting their time, and to tell their boss how horrible they are at their job. You’ll usually get some snide response, then report their a** to Fet, burn the username, and move on.