Sleep in rope?

[Deleted Member]

@CopperKnob, I don't know how experienced you are, maybe you are more experienced than I am, but that doesn't mean all you say is right no matter how irrational it is. Your unwillingness/ inability to explain your reasoning in detail makes me doubt on your opinion. Someone who knows what they are talking about would explain more detailed why they think that way. But you don't, you repeat yourself and insist on the superiority of your knowledge. Btw to me you seem to seek an agument.

[CopperKnob]

11 minutes ago, Olorun said:

I have replied to all of these reasons, they don't make sense

Then you need to educate yourself further. Plenty of others have attempted to do so and you've failed to engage in any way whatsoever. I would suggest you now do your own research

[ge****]

2 hours ago, Olorun said:

@CopperKnob I'm afraid you didn't even read what I wrote because you still just repeat yourself. Being careful is absolutely good& necessary, but this is just blindness. You argue without any logic, repeating your thesis like a prayer as if this made it more true. "The wrope might move& hit pressure points"- I have never heared about anyone making such a big deal about sleeping with a bracelet or necklace. "Turning blue"- What tightness are you thinking about? Won't happen if you don't tie like you want it to turn blue- which you definitely don't want when sleeping in ropes. Also you don't connect all the ties so they can pull each other tighter. logical

CK might not bite but I will!!

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She made it perfectly clear why it's a risk, people moving in their sleep, knots moving and tightening, rope moving and hitting pressure points/nerves etc etc 

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Yes, you naively suggested that you could tie loosely and test for discomfort before sleeping but that doesn't account for longer term movement leading to discomfort, or movement in your sleep causing a tightening or any of the other obvious risks that could indeed lead to some of the issues she highlighted.

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And a necklace or a bracelet is somewhat different from a rope that's intended to restrict movement and restrain!!

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Sorry but there is absolutely nothing "logical" about any of what you've said and I haven't even got onto the what happens if there's an emergency situation such as a fire in the house and the need for immediate release when groggy through sleep and likely in the dark yet!!

[Sh****]

-Asked for opinions.
-Received opinions.

[CopperKnob]

I'm one of six different people all giving clear reasoning as to why it's unsafe, they're the very same reasons why you don't leave someone restrained unsupervised when they're conscious.
Odd that you appear to only have issue with my comment.
Perhaps, if you believe it is safe practice, you can provide further detail to back up your view

[Deleted Member]

I provided more than you did. You simply say "you can't compare a bracelet or necklace to a rope because a rope is supposed to restrict". That doesn't make sense. The purpose has nothing to do with the physical effect of the material on skin. Well, a rope is usually wrapped around more often so it's a broader surface than a bracelet so it's not that bad actually. Only problem can be tightening knots- a risk you can eliminate by the way you tie. Of course the problem of a house burning down remains, I personally would be able to carry my girlfriend outside easily (before you rage out now, I don't tie her up for sleeping because I have no interest in doing so anyways)

[ey****]

no.

rope is actually a high risk activity.  it is vital to both monitor the person tied and be able to release them quickly.

if someone has tied you and gone to sleep, they haven't done that. If you have self tied then you can't monitor yourself when asleep. 

rope causes nerve damage. it also cuts off circulation. it wasn't designed to be done for a long length of time, let alone while asleep.  If something isn't "tight" then it could still become tight.  There is also the risk of you waking up and needing to get up in a hurry (emergency) or forgetting you are tied and injuring yourself.

There is NO safe way to do this, or to lower the risk.  Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

[Pl****]

56 minutes ago, Olorun said:

I provided more than you did. You simply say "you can't compare a bracelet or necklace to a rope because a rope is supposed to restrict". That doesn't make sense. The purpose has nothing to do with the physical effect of the material on skin. Well, a rope is usually wrapped around more often so it's a broader surface than a bracelet so it's not that bad actually. Only problem can be tightening knots- a risk you can eliminate by the way you tie. Of course the problem of a house burning down remains, I personally would be able to carry my girlfriend outside easily (before you rage out now, I don't tie her up for sleeping because I have no interest in doing so anyways)

You are being an idiot. “I personally would be able to carry my girlfriend outside easily”. Yes - if your conscious. What if there’s smoke and you can’t see clearly, and trip? Knock yourself out, or her?

You asked for thoughts on this, and all you do is pick fights and argue. It’s not a discussion you’re having, you’re just arguing everybody’s sensible opinion.

Other than the fact that yes, physically, they may be ok sleeping tied, just don’t. It’s stupid, and too risky, and so many factors out of your control come in to play.

Stay safe to play another day.

[Scarlettmiss25]

Can I also congratulate everyone who is providing safe advice.

As a final note, I'm assuming when ties that can't shift are talked about we are referring to knots such as bowline? Which are used frequently in emergencies as harness knots since they won't undo despite extreme pressure. However I have been on the receiving end of one tightening due to the rope being alot more slippery after a practise emergency and it absolutely DOES tighten so while in theory most knots shouldn't move differing movements and tension can cause that to be untrue

[Deleted Member]

This is a stupid thing to do. Lots of people have explained why. You seem determined to do it anyway.

Will expect your post in a couple of months about rope nerve damage and how you wish you'd done more research and "Hey, rope is dangerous guys, believe me!"

[ge****]

1 hour ago, Olorun said:

I provided more than you did. You simply say "you can't compare a bracelet or necklace to a rope because a rope is supposed to restrict". That doesn't make sense. The purpose has nothing to do with the physical effect of the material on skin. Well, a rope is usually wrapped around more often so it's a broader surface than a bracelet so it's not that bad actually. Only problem can be tightening knots- a risk you can eliminate by the way you tie. Of course the problem of a house burning down remains, I personally would be able to carry my girlfriend outside easily (before you rage out now, I don't tie her up for sleeping because I have no interest in doing so anyways)

Actually re-read what I said with regards to a bracelet or necklace vs a rope - you've firstly quoted it wrongly, and secondly taken it out of context.
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A bracelet or necklace that might be worn when sleeping is generally loose and non-restrictive - a rope that's used to tie someone sufficiently enough to restrict them such as a hog-tie (which *you* suggested) is not and there lies the difference between the two things.
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As for the notion you could carry your girlfriend outside if you were to have tied her in the event of a burning house doesn't account for being able to do so if she was tied in a difficult or cumbersome position, in a smoke filled room in the dark or if you'd been overpowered by smoke inhalation yet she was conscious but unable to do anything to save both of you because she was tied and any number of other possibilities.
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It seems to me however you are intent on arguing for the sake of arguing with little logic or common sense being applied or even being able to see that the weight of valid and reasoned opinion is against you, and that in itself speaks volumes.

[CopperKnob]

1 hour ago, Char__ said:

This is a stupid thing to do. Lots of people have explained why. You seem determined to do it anyway.

Will expect your post in a couple of months about rope nerve damage and how you wish you'd done more research and "Hey, rope is dangerous guys, believe me!"

An honest and regretful person who's able to taoe on board feedback, would create a thread like that. I don't believe that's what we're dealing with here

[DarkArts1066]

I believe the OP has now been blocked for breaching site rules. I was going to wade in with my opinion - which pretty much echoes everyone else’s here - although my terminology may have gotten me banned also.

So many valid reasons for NEVER doing this ! 🙄

[Je****]

11 hours ago, DaddysNaughtyGirl said:

Yes 100%. Anything to please the master 😌

I'd seriously rethink this comment. No master would ever order a thing such as this (not saying yours has), but you're safety is paramount and you do not jeopardize that simply to please someone.

[Je****]

5 minutes ago, DarkArts1066 said:

I believe the OP has now been blocked for breaching site rules. I was going to wade in with my opinion - which pretty much echoes everyone else’s here - although my terminology may have gotten me banned also.

So many valid reasons for NEVER doing this ! 🙄

I can still see him.

Sadly his age is shining through not only for the rope ideas in sleep but how the argument has unfolded. 

So sad to see, only because no matter what is said to rein*** safety, he's simply arguing against it from people 2 or 3 times his age and experience. 

Very sad and worrisome because someone can get hurt.

[CopperKnob]

8 minutes ago, Finally_Jen said:

I can still see him.

Sadly his age is shining through not only for the rope ideas in sleep but how the argument has unfolded. 

So sad to see, only because no matter what is said to rein*** safety, he's simply arguing against it from people 2 or 3 times his age and experience. 

Very sad and worrisome because someone can get hurt.

OP and the individual arguing are two different people. OP simply asked the question before being blocked by Fet and unable to respond. The other guy is arguing for the sake of arguing given that they've decided it's not for them anyway 🙄

[Je****]

37 minutes ago, CopperKnob said:

OP and the individual arguing are two different people. OP simply asked the question before being blocked by Fet and unable to respond. The other guy is arguing for the sake of arguing given that they've decided it's not for them anyway 🙄

Crikey you're right. Baffled beyond words then 😬😬

[DarkArts1066]

Sadly, I never cease to be amazed by Human stupidity and ignorance.
There is a reason why Cockroaches will survive Armageddon, and Humans won’t … and it’s not just down to their body armour !

[Ma****]

If safety is a factor in all this, then it is a non-factor because this is why the exercise of safety words are used and always make sure that you have a pair of trauma shears close by. I always wear my trauma shears.

[CopperKnob]

1 hour ago, MasterRooster said:

If safety is a factor in all this, then it is a non-factor because this is why the exercise of safety words are used and always make sure that you have a pair of trauma shears close by. I always wear my trauma shears.

So uh, some people talk in their sleep but I'm not sure that sleeping people are gonna be able to mumble a safeword or use shears to cut rope so uh yeah, safety is still a factor even if you do wear your trauma shears in bed

[CopperKnob]

Guys, if you have little experience with rope, it's OK. What's not OK is putting ego over your own, but more importantly, someone elses safety and well-being and sharing shoddy 'advice'
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Prospective ropebunnys, check out anyone wanting to tie with you. What education have they done, with who and where.  Complete your own risk profile. What injuries/health problems do you have that any rigger needs to be aware of. What rope are you willing to be tied in, do you know how the different materials react. What ties are acceptable to you, not simply in relation to your safety with a new rigger but re your height, body shape and weight - how does your body respond to various ties. Do you, yourself know the basic knots. Are you willing to voice it if you feel something tingling, loosing sensation, a limb cooling below your body temp. Will you let your own ego get in the way. Will you say you're fine until you're not. Does the rigger know you well enough to read your body language/facial expressions. Are you willing to accept nerve damage bearing in mind it has a culmative affect. What level of risk to your health are you willing to accept.
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I ask all of this because it appears that there are some among us who are unaccepting of how risky rope is and who are not willing to acknowledge any form of advice.
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TLDR: know your rigger, make sure your rigger knows you, do your own education preferrably in group settings with knowledgable individuals

[ro****]

Do as you please it’s your kink an I’m sure you won’t kill yourself as you and your partner sleep
Next if your into kink you will probably need a referee if the do gooders get there way
Do as you please and enjoy

[Sg****]

Risk of death, permanently damaging nerve endings, loss of circulation, amputation, severe bodily harm…sad how so many people dont take safety into consideration

[DarkArts1066]

It’s quite simple people.

Do NOT sleep in rope.

EVER.

Unless you wish to die - or wake up with non functioning body parts.
That’s it.
This thread needs to be closed now.

[Deleted Member]

Simple answer never sleep in rope. Risk is way to high for any individual person.