Misandry And Me

[CopperKnob]

  2 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

I know, I'm done now.. cant tell if he's just trolling or if he really is that.. well.. oblivious 🤷🏻‍♂️ kind of sad if he is.

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The evidence elsewhere suggests that that is exactly the case

[PJ****]

  2 minutes ago, CopperKnob said:

The evidence elsewhere suggests that that is exactly the case

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Fuck I need some ice-cream! 😂😂

[FETMOD-KF]

yep - please

there's difference of opinion, there's alternative view points, so on - and these are all valid

this was done in bad faith and creating circular arguments.  And so, please - no more, from anyone  

[CopperKnob]

  3 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

Fuck I need some ice-cream! 😂😂

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That damn badger 😂

[DeviantInside]

Ok… I’m guilty. I like to think I’m different but the reality is I have enough social, historical and unrecognised indoctrination that I adhere to certain stereotypes at a subconscious or unthinking level that it’s a thing. I try to be better but it’s still there. And I would go further than gender. It’s race. It’s sexual preference. It’s hair colour. It’s nerdy pastimes (even as a proud geek). It’s all of these things and more. I have been bombarded with these things since I was born. Does that excuse them? Does it make them right? Does that change anything? Ultimately no. Ultimately if o want anything to change and the world to change overall fist and foremost I have to change myself. And that starts by trying to recognise my faults. Will I get it right or find it easy? No probably not. But you keep trying to find the world you want by changing yourself and (maybe) influencing others towards what would be the best it can be.

[CopperKnob]

  13 minutes ago, DeviantInside said:

Ok… I’m guilty. I like to think I’m different but the reality is I have enough social, historical and unrecognised indoctrination that I adhere to certain stereotypes at a subconscious or unthinking level that it’s a thing. I try to be better but it’s still there. And I would go further than gender. It’s race. It’s sexual preference. It’s hair colour. It’s nerdy pastimes (even as a proud geek). It’s all of these things and more. I have been bombarded with these things since I was born. Does that excuse them? Does it make them right? Does that change anything? Ultimately no. Ultimately if o want anything to change and the world to change overall fist and foremost I have to change myself. And that starts by trying to recognise my faults. Will I get it right or find it easy? No probably not. But you keep trying to find the world you want by changing yourself and (maybe) influencing others towards what would be the best it can be.

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I think if everyone was honest we all are and some of that is due to culture and generational factors.
The point is, is that we recognise in ourselves first and foremost and make changes where we're able. And then we look outward and think about whether we can ellicit change elsewhere or at least influence it.
And, if we can't well then we think about our own boundaries, put them in place and en*** them
And actually, if we relate that to the world of kink, that's no different to vetting/setting our own limits.

[QXX666]

What was the point of this post?? The OP again chose a toxic topic she knew would create “popcorn” effect, maybe the “attention seeking syndrome” and ending the “discussion/chat “ with some pantomime jokes with her ***rs. As usual the same people. 
It’s disrespectful and an unnecessary use of the forum. I am not sure how it was allowed in the first place as it’s been discussed in the past with the same effect, the OP made it clear in her last paragraph she didn’t care about it, so she wasn’t concern about other opinions. 
may as well close it. 

[PJ****]

  6 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

What was the point of this post?? The OP again chose a toxic topic she knew would create “popcorn” effect, maybe the “attention seeking syndrome” and ending the “discussion/chat “ with some pantomime jokes with her ***rs. As usual the same people. 
It’s disrespectful and an unnecessary use of the forum. I am not sure how it was allowed in the first place as it’s been discussed in the past with the same effect, the OP made it clear in her last paragraph she didn’t care about it, so she wasn’t concern about other opinions. 
may as well close it. 

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Like Bob Hoskins used to say... it's good to talk 😁

[ge****]

  7 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

Like Bob Hoskins used to say... it's good to talk 😁

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Ah but has he got an Ology? 😂🤣

[QXX666]

  50 minutes ago, PJ3000 said:

Like Bob Hoskins used to say... it's good to talk 😁

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Well he’s dead so it didn’t help. Also there is a chat room for that… 

[CopperKnob]

  58 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

What was the point of this post?? The OP again chose a toxic topic she knew would create “popcorn” effect, maybe the “attention seeking syndrome” and ending the “discussion/chat “ with some pantomime jokes with her ***rs. As usual the same people. 
It’s disrespectful and an unnecessary use of the forum. I am not sure how it was allowed in the first place as it’s been discussed in the past with the same effect, the OP made it clear in her last paragraph she didn’t care about it, so she wasn’t concern about other opinions. 
may as well close it. 

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The answer to your question is right there in the comments

[QXX666]

  43 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

Ah but has he got an Ology? 😂🤣

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I hope you are not talking about me because that would be classified as an insult which is against the forum and site rules. 
At least I do not invade my sentences with Imojies galore like a child. Unless you need to emphasise your jokes? Pointless exercise 

[PJ****]

  3 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

Well he’s dead so it didn’t help. Also there is a chat room for that… 

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Yea have you tried having a serious conversation in the chat rooms!? 😂
Also what does him being dead have to do with it.. it's still sound advice 😁

[ge****]

  5 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

I hope you are not talking about me because that would be classified as an insult which is against the forum and site rules. 
At least I do not invade my sentences with Imojies galore like a child. Unless you need to emphasise your jokes? Pointless exercise 

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You obviously don't know your BT ads of the 80s otherwise you'd know exactly what I was referring to 😊

As for how I choose to construct my sentences I'm perfectly happy with how I do so thank you but many thanks for the constructive criticism - I've considered it and decided it was criticism for the sake of criticism and therefore equally like a blunt pencil 🙂

[PJ****]

  10 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

I hope you are not talking about me because that would be classified as an insult which is against the forum and site rules. 
At least I do not invade my sentences with Imojies galore like a child. Unless you need to emphasise your jokes? Pointless exercise 

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Also separate point, but theres been studies that suggest people who use emojis regularly are better at communicating in general 🤔 food for thought

[ge****]

  17 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

I hope you are not talking about me because that would be classified as an insult which is against the forum and site rules. 
At least I do not invade my sentences with Imojies galore like a child. Unless you need to emphasise your jokes? Pointless exercise 

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P.S. even if my question were directed at you - I fail to see how asking it would be "classified as an insult" - it doesn't suggest you have or haven't got one, or are any the better or worse because you do/don't - so I'd suggest you were nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking

Now perhaps as you suggested to CK you seem to be somewhat bothered and putting a lot of effort into trying to criticise - are you as equally obsessed as you earlier tried to suggest she was?

[CopperKnob]

  17 minutes ago, QXX666 said:

I hope you are not talking about me because that would be classified as an insult which is against the forum and site rules. 
At least I do not invade my sentences with Imojies galore like a child. Unless you need to emphasise your jokes? Pointless exercise 

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Talking about insults do we need a reminder when you openly called a member a dog and a piece of meat in the forums.
How about when you called another member unwell simply because of their forum posts and it was clear that concerns for them was not your intent

[FETMOD-BD]

Play nice or I'll start dishing out points!

[Se****]

  1 hour ago, PJ3000 said:

Also separate point, but theres been studies that suggest people who use emojis regularly are better at communicating in general 🤔 food for thought

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I sincerely hope you have scientific reliable proof of this 😉

[Deleted Member]

  12 hours ago, CopperKnob said:

If that's the lens who read it through so be it

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Just helping you fill that glass.

[Yo****]

Wow. I’m not even going to try and get involved in this one - I simply don’t have the social skills needed just yet 😂

[Deleted Member]

  34 minutes ago, YorkshireBiker said:

Wow. I’m not even going to try and get involved in this one - I simply don’t have the social skills needed just yet 😂

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The only social skill you need to deal with a narcissist is running.

[Se****]

  34 minutes ago, Darksoul_85 said:

The only social skill you need to deal with a narcissist is running.

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I can guess but I’m not sure who exactly you’re implying is a narcissist in this comment. However, there really is no need for name calling. Please can we not do that? At the end of the day we’re all people with our own opinions and life experience and just because we don’t agree doesn’t mean we need to be rude. 😁

[Deleted Member]

It isn't name-calling. Same as being a misandrist or misogynist or any sort of phobe. It is what it is. You can agree with a narcissist or disagree. It doesn't change what they are. You can disagree with the sky and it will still be blue. And if you ***t a zebra the lions will kill it.

[FETMOD-KF]

  42 minutes ago, Darksoul_85 said:

It isn't name-calling. Same as being a misandrist or misogynist or any sort of phobe. It is what it is. You can agree with a narcissist or disagree. It doesn't change what they are. You can disagree with the sky and it will still be blue. And if you ***t a zebra the lions will kill it.

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context is everything

it's in disagreeing with the point rather than attacking the person.

So yeah - saying someone is a narcissist, misandrist, whatever is name calling and it is both weak in debate and also not tolerated.

please refrain.  

we want to keep this thread open in the name of balanced discussion.  But it feels there are people who cannot challenge or offer an alternate viewpoint without either descending to name calling or arguing in bad faith.

neither of which are tolerated.   so, again. we ask for this to stop.