Beautiful women and the cycle of emptiness…

[He****]

I agree.

[as****]

Start to break the cycle by simply not being one who circles below. As well as being a man's voice to make louder this sentiment, which ladies have definitely been saying too

[Al****]

Well I get a lot of d**k pics and rude comments/ oversexed compliments from men and after a while it becomes almost silly and meaningless.
But I was at the gym yesterday and got the best compliment on my body from an old black lady and that meant so much more because I really don’t think she cared about my tits.

[LightCam890]

Women with a Good Heart good intentions good healthy Body that's Quality :)

[LightCam890]

This is a Interesting Topic thanks for sharing 

[LightCam890]

On 6/21/2023 at 10:01 PM, AlienAngel999 said:

Well I get a lot of d**k pics and rude comments/ oversexed compliments from men and after a while it becomes almost silly and meaningless.
But I was at the gym yesterday and got the best compliment on my body from an old black lady and that meant so much more because I really don’t think she cared about my tits.

Its All Part of The Game The More You Feed These users  After Awhile It becomes Funny Or Meaningless The Best To do as For My poor Young mind Is To Stay away Don't initiate any contact To a ***sucker like That Stay away Don't initiate Isolate This Individual As Good as you Can I hope This Helps everyone Who is going Through this .

[Ua****]

Yea and I can say foe my self personally you never see how attractive you truly are because of the line of exes that have made them feel some kind of way and then how comfortable you are in your own skin so it can be overwhelming especially when you are 💯 with everyone and myself personally I keep it 💯 but I'm finding out I'm either thought of as a fake profile or just to much woman lol

[lo****]

Amen. Wow a man that understands

[ED****]

Some men or boys socialised without seeing or feeling value in intimacy without sexual thought or feeling, are unable to allow themselves to feel or be ***, as they may wrongly feel and do see that as being weak,

whether that is part of a root of the problem it seems essential to me that to be emotionally mature and strong that education through experience requires more vocalisation and openess plus discussion when growing up and in education,

some parents and teachers do a very good job in this respect, aspects, and learning, cooperating, no easy answers ever,

the *** and hurt caused by prejudice varies from that of misogyny and milandry to genocide as we constantly witness through the years of history,

my opinion is only a contribution to the overall discussion not an expert one, though I do see personal development and growth is linked to knowledge, and the vulnerability and intimacy of being human in a non sexual manner,

thus respect for other genders as one’s equal as opposed to the abusive use of power for whatever excuse,

debate, learn , practice, error(s) happen, so we review, and improve.

[Je****]

I am a sub who has and currently does serve several drop dead gorgeous young women. My particular kink in BDSM is Goddess Worship were the Goddess controls my session. They can talk or tell me to take them to dinner or shopping if they want too. I never ask for sex or nudity from a goddess or even ask they dress up for me. That is their option. And I have been a bitch to different goddess for over 20 years Some of which still visit from 20 years ago.

Without a doubt the harshest goddesses I serve have always been extremely beautiful goddesses. They have put me through extensive ***s and what I can only describe as unrelenting sexual acts strictly for their pleasure. When they text me or command me in person it’s often something I have only seen on extreme porn videos and is almost serial coming from a beautiful woman whose appearance can be described as a work of art.

I can only think this has been as a result of years of physical and psychological *** they have been through from vanilla men defiling them for their own personal pleasure. No one can do what they do at their age (young 20’s to early 30’s) naturally in my opinion. It’s a learned behavior.

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On 6/15/2023 at 5:17 AM, TallBastard said:

I had a sad thought just a moment ago. I came across a profile who is just drop dead gorgeous, and most if not all of her pictures had multiple comments from men describing the deviant acts they would gladly perform on her and, well, it made me feel kind of bad for her. It’s probably a safe bet she gets dozens if not hundreds of messages each time she checks her inbox, filled with d**k picks and superficial bullshit…pushing her further and further into into a neat little box that dictates that the only value she could possibly have is her tits, her a**, or her p*ssy. How could someone who experiences this ever feel safe enough to let their guard down and share who they actually are with someone? How could they not be so jaded they’d ever give someone the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t just playing the nice guy in order to use them for another notch on their belt? As I scrolled down her profile, big surprise, not much written about herself, I’m guessing because she assumes nobody ever makes it past her photos, and “no one reads these”, or maybe she just needs the validation and showing her body is the only way she knows how to get it. It must be lonely, and I’ve seen firsthand that the more beautiful women are, often times the more insecure they are, because of the box they’re shoved into. Men love beautiful women, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but how do we break the cycle of putting women on a pedestal, isolating them by treating them like a piece of meat, and then calling them stuck up when they’re afraid to come down because of all the rabid f**kboys circling below? Curious to hear thoughts from women AND men.

There's a simple way to break the cycle which eventually anyone objectified like this learns ... blocking is a function for a reason or just ignore people "like that" by not even giving them a rise or response 

 

Sadly this degenerates behaviour has become rampant as its hard to just block people like this having accounts.

Which makes them think it's allowed or even acceptable as they do what they want or say what they want usually with no punishment.

Most of them do it for a power trip that they can't have in real life / face to face as there would be someone who would "teach" them a lesson in how to treat people as human beings not slabs of flesh.

 

It's a disgusting sad thing that "freedom of s***ch" on the Internet has breed because there hiding behind a screen forgetting or not caring that there's a person who has feelings and human rights that they are basically bullying and belittling 

[Savannah-tesla-chick]

WolfmanDave,

Your first paragraph makes a lot of sense.

However, I have been on the receiving end of thousands of bad messages per day for years. I have done as you suggested, but, being on multiple platforms, I found the only way to stop everything was to stop posting and log out, change my phone number and city. 

I've done the phone and city change 7 times in the last 2 years, because I had to.

Now I'm basically scared to go out. Ignoring people hasn't worked for me...

The last site I used my real name on I had 50+ guys per day 'interested'. In the first 50 I found 2 genuine people, one even came and stayed for 3 days. The rest, I'm not sure what they wanted, but they basically grilled me for pics then when I couldn't give them what they wanted, they deleted their account, yes, all 48 of them.

I stayed a further 3 days, convinced they couldn't all be like that, I was proved wrong.

I dont know whats wrong with them, maybe they are all press, but i cant see that being the case.

I've come here because I used to frequent BBB, plus others, always found most people to be friendly:)

S

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On 6/9/2024 at 8:24 PM, Savannah-tesla-chick said:

WolfmanDave,

Your first paragraph makes a lot of sense.

However, I have been on the receiving end of thousands of bad messages per day for years. I have done as you suggested, but, being on multiple platforms, I found the only way to stop everything was to stop posting and log out, change my phone number and city. 

I've done the phone and city change 7 times in the last 2 years, because I had to.

Now I'm basically scared to go out. Ignoring people hasn't worked for me...

The last site I used my real name on I had 50+ guys per day 'interested'. In the first 50 I found 2 genuine people, one even came and stayed for 3 days. The rest, I'm not sure what they wanted, but they basically grilled me for pics then when I couldn't give them what they wanted, they deleted their account, yes, all 48 of them.

I stayed a further 3 days, convinced they couldn't all be like that, I was proved wrong.

I dont know whats wrong with them, maybe they are all press, but i cant see that being the case.

I've come here because I used to frequent BBB, plus others, always found most people to be friendly:)

S

Sorry to see that you have been treated so poorly and badly.

 

The whole reason I am here is because like you I have spent alot of time and effort just to be disappointed or played.

Atleast here ou can have better than average chances of finding someone who matches what you want or need hopefully.. 

Someone who appreciates you for the person you are and can Help you forget because you are happy.

 

I wish you all the best in your searching as you seem like a wonderful person 

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They may be fake profiles. Usually the ones that look like models & have nothing to say are fake profiles. You could do an image search and report them if anybody cared. Pranksters or scammers. Some juvenile delinquents putting something out there that causes you to fantasize & contemplate your self worth when true happiness can only be found within.

[la****]

MRQSDSMY makes a good point. Could be a scam or joke.

That said, I can at least sort of answer.

Regardless of whether it's a real account or not, the problem is real.

Apart from the arguments being had all over different social media platforms and elsewhere about the topic... I think we need more productive, high profile discussions about it. By productive I mean not keeping people in social echo chambers where they only hear the same things from those around them, and also mediated so things don't just become a contest of who can sling the worst insults.

That said...occasionally people can be so entrenched in a belief that they just don't want to see another angle. And so all those men proclaiming that most women most of the time are asking to be objectified every time they look nice, or post a picture, that it's "what they secretly want but won't tell you" don't want to believe what they think is wrong, so they'll do whatever they can to find "evidence" to support the idea, however convoluted that evidence is.

It's kind of an eternal question. How to change the mind of someone who is absolutely convinced they're right, and is so scared of being wrong, they won't even touch the idea?


Maybe only perspective could fix that. If they wouldn't use their imagination, though, it's difficult to accomplish that. Besides that, most of them just can't truly imagine that reality with all its nuances, because they haven't lived it. And that's okay...but many also refuse to try to look at it within the context that it's in; many proclaim they'd be happy to recieve such attention were the situation reversed (the fact that men have their own problems, like how they have pressure to initiate, don't traditionally get as many compliments etc, is also a factor there I think)

Anyway..those people are not thinking of all the other factors involved.

For example:

The fact that while we have made great strides socially when it comes to women's rights and having our voices heard, of course we still have some social artifacts left from days past that still tint the way we think and speak about relations between sexes. We're not completely removed from the past, even if individually some had good parents who were conscious of the problems we still have and addressed those with their kids. We're still growing.

We've found through various studies (whether or not those studies supply sufficient evidence to make the claim that this is a fact is something I'd like to research more before I claim it as one...but I digress) that women are more likely than men to have experienced some form of, shall we say, "unwanted sexual attention" in their lifetime, and many have experienced several instances by different men throughout their lifetime.

(I'd like to point out that yes, this does happen to men, and it's another problem entirely that they may be made to even more shame, and so may report it less, so the statistics here have room for error....however, considering the social factors involved and the history of the phenomenon, I would think it's safe to say there would, even after taking that into account, be a rather large discrepancy in the numbers between the sexes for this instance).

So, maybe looking into the statistics a bit, finding out what is more objectively truthful on the matter (knowing your sh*t), and then bringing those things up in discussions with other men where the opportunity appears, wherever they try to justify their wrong treatment of someone when the person has expressed they don't like it, would be helpful.

While we may not need a knight on a shiny steed to make our point for us, someone those kinds of people feel they have something in common with challenging their nonsense (I'm guessing a y chromosome is probably their qualifying factor, considering how they act) even at the risk of facing ridicule or dismissal would be helpful.

Standing up for a woman if she is clearly uncomfortable with the attention can be helpful. Again, not because we can't speak our minds, but in some cases, we have been ridiculed so much ourselves or labeled with many different slurs or dismissed by being told we're "too sensitive" on the subject, that at some point we either feel too tired to fight and just act like we're not uncomfortable as we internally roll our eyes, or maybe feel legitimately unsafe to do so, depending on the severity of the issue.

When I was much younger, too young, I found it safest then, because I was taught that I was dependent on the adults in my life, to smile and act like it was a great compliment. This was never explicitly said to me, because someone saying that explicitly....they probably would have immediately felt wrong about it, if they had any sort of clue, and wouldn'tthat be an uncomfortable thing to feel? So no one ever actually said it.

Instead, it was quiet. A sort of unspoken social contract you just follow the rules to even if you never had a hand in drafting it.

Because it was quiet, and no one talked about it, it was all subtle enough that if you raised a fuss, you broke the rules and faced being ridiculed or ostracized in small ways. As an example of what I mean, even though this is far from the worst of them:

When I was 16, a 45 year old man, a neighbor and friend of a parent, consistently told me how pretty I was any time he saw me, complimented me any time I wore anything feminine, talked about my long hair...etc. it was clear he saw me as attractive, and not as a child, which I was. It was extremely uncomfortable. I tried to avoid being in the room when he came over. When that happened, I would sometimes be called into the room because he "wanted to say hi" or would say something like "where's that pretty daughter of yours?"

Once, my mother said after he left that I was not, under any circumstances, to take him up on the offer he made to go on a trip in his truck with him. I almost felt insulted she felt she needed to tell me that...I was no stranger to the danger that represented...though of course, grateful she was making sure I knew it wasn't right.

But when she said this to her husband, he rolled his eyes and told her she was being dramatic. His friend would never do anything weird like that, and we were being so dramatic for suggesting him calling me pretty and offering to take me on trips was something to be worried about.

This man almost exclusively dated women younger than him by a large margin, and routinely made suggestive comments while at our house about young women he found attractive.

Years later, this same man was arrested for making plans to meet who he thought was a ***age girl in a park at night.

And that was after the young woman who used to help take care of my mother, who took him up an offer to sleep on his couch when she hit a rough spot in life, left quickly, saying he made her very uncomfortable, but not going into detail.

It's that kind of subtle perpetuation that allows people to think there isn't still a problem or that women are being dramatic or just not "appreciating the gracious compliments for what they are". That unspoken "sit down and shut up" expectation is still very alive and well in some places. The only way to get rid of it is to be that person who gets made fun of for ruining the "good time" for not letting those little things slide by for the sake of just letting those social events go smoothly. Because really, the reason people who let those things slide get mad at people who make a fuss is because they can't stand being uncomfortable, and bringing those problems up is very uncomfortable. So...if someone you know is recieving uncomfortable, and they express in some way, or if you ask them and they tell you that indeed they are uncomfortable and feel unsafe... don't be afraid to help them out of the situation, or to make a fuss.

Basically, being brave about what you believe when you see something that isn't right, encouraging others to do the same and to try to see things from another perspective, is probably the best thing we can do. The change starts with us. Not everyone will care, some will be violently against that kind of shift, some will be too afraid of it. Maybe the last two are the same thing. But if there's a whole population of men who are either silent about it, laughing awkwardly, or fully believing it's okay, with only a few outspoken, that social pressure to "just go with it" will stick around.

[pu****]

It's lonely because men love up say "we love beautiful women" but yet do not actually love them, do not appreciate them, do not respect them, etc. Men don't know what love is, and beautiful women learn the hard way that "love" is employed by men deceptively.

The only way to break that cycle is to abrigalo get a hold on your own mind, emotions, and psychology. Actually activate your underdeveloped frontal lobes. Check out the psychotherapist Previn Karian on youtube. He has 3 videos on misogyny (2 are about 20 mins long, one is about 3hrs long) and he addresses this topic's question extensively as a man showing up to speak to other men about an issue that's really only for men to solve for themselves. Anything women can say on it doesn't really matter; men listen to other men. If men listened to women this issue already would've been eradicated.