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[Je****]

What you're doing wrong, is sending 50 messages of an advance... First and foremost..no one wants to be a random number in a wide net of no selection and effort.
People on this site can see statistics and so on, so for me when I get an advance and see that the person has messaged 40 others with no replies etc, makes me feel like crap and I ignore. Be select. Only message people who actually appeal to you, are close or within your travel range. Who share hobbies interests and have a good bio for a select conversation. And that your profile is also specific and informative. Other wise you'll be laughed out of the park

[Ch****]

Simple.. Basically because you are a man.
It is known that most woman receive bunch of messages and man get s nothing ( almost).
So I think that something that could help is get into the female situation in which you are a small number in a bunch..
Somehow you have to find your way to stand out of this bunch, and it can be your way only..
It’s far from being an easy thing, I perfectly know this, but is there other ways?

Although beside your “strategy” there are common generic things that you can do..
Take the best picture of you that you can, maybe showing your interest ( stupid example: if you like to surf post pictures in wich you surf).
Pets help too, if you have one show it..
Complete your bio eloquently, in details, but don’t be too entense( in my opinion).
Look into other Man bio, that might help having a sense of what you have around..
There are tutorials even on YouTube on how to approach online and how to make an attractive bio, you just have to readapt to this contest..
Hope I could help you, at least a few..

[Ch****]

Also.. A great amount of patience is the key..
If you think that you can dictate the time/message flow in here I think you are going to be disappointed.

[Je****]

1 hour ago, Charlie218 said:

Simple.. Basically because you are a man.

Wrong. 

You think 0 men get replies on here? 

If even one does then you're proven wrong. 

And there's plenty of evidence that men get messages and attention  and lack of response when you're throwing shit at anything that might stick, is on the individual not a gender as a whole.

[uk****]

In all honesty I think you’re expecting this to be a dating app. It’s not. If you made 2 advances per day in the real world you’d probably have been labelled a pest.

[Deleted Member]

Feminism to the rescue. He made a general statement, which is true. Just like woman make billions on only fans as a whole. Compared to the male population which is increasingly less.

[Deleted Member]

*women

[Je****]

36 minutes ago, ukmarky said:

In all honesty I think you’re expecting this to be a dating app. It’s not. If you made 2 advances per day in the real world you’d probably have been labelled a pest.

To be fair, this site is labelled a dating site, for fetishes. Sure. People can and do hook up, but most people are seeking reliable partners, someone who actually likes them for them, not someone who is literally casting a net to see what fish falls in.  When that happens, you can bet your bottom dollar they will reject the fisherman, to put it politely. It comes off desperate and sleazy, and yes you're quite right on the "advancing on people in the real world". Imagine hitting on 50 people in a bar. Yuck.

[Je****]

1 hour ago, metatlib said:

Feminism to the rescue. He made a general statement, which is true. Just like woman make billions on only fans as a whole. Compared to the male population which is increasingly less.

Nope. Nothing to the rescue, I don't class myself as a feminist. In fact I am usually one of the first to come defending men and their reputations online, which is what I did here. It is NOT because he is a man. That is not a general statement. That is trying to assume that his gender is his limitation, when it is in fact his process. 

He literally said he messages 50 advances.... and wonders why none reply? Because they can see that he's sending 50 advances. As I said, it reads sleazy and desperate and it's no different to hitting on multiple women in a bar one after the other. They will avoid like the plague.

 

As for OF, I cannot comment as I don't use it, either as an account owner or someone who buys the content. On there sex sells, and it's usually (but not always/not everyone) women who *** the fact that men pay. I dislike it and won't touch it for that reason.

[Ch****]

2 hours ago, Jeneral_Whore said:

Wrong. 

You think 0 men get replies on here? 

If even one does then you're proven wrong. 

And there's plenty of evidence that men get messages and attention  and lack of response when you're throwing shit at anything that might stick, is on the individual not a gender as a whole.

I didn’t say 0 man get always 0 replies.. But being a man increase exponentially this chance..

In fact I said many more diverse things about it in my answer.

I am a man I got replies and even went out with people, and I’m not the only lucky one off course.
I was making a generic gender statement, proven by facts..

[Lord_Talion]

Ya been here a few weeks n only sent 50 with 1 response? Give it time. I've probably sent thousands with maybe 5% response rate. Most ppl are here cause they're newbs n don't know jack, no response there. Some ppl know their salt n just wannt network, n too many ppl are here just for amfhe attention. If you wanna meet up irl go to a site that's been around for decades

[CopperKnob]

You've sent 50 messages and have one person responding, let's be somewhat generous and suggest that half of those 50 you've sent are back and forth with the one person. That means that you've messaged 26 different people in 48 hours, probably more if we're being honest. Which means that you've taken a ***tergun approach because there's no way that you've found that many people you think you may build a connection with so quickly.

[Sbjohnny]

Bro don't trip I've been mocked for being new and not completely thorough in what I'm wanting I feel if I just introduce myself with where I live and what I'm looking for or can give. But it does feel like there are some women on here that are bored and it's almost a kind of shaming. There is someone for everyone. Sit tight and if they like you someone will respond. I've gotten responses just not I. The area or maybe we wanted different things. It would be nice one day to find my person. But everything takes time. Have a great day brother

[li****]

I feel your ***. I've been here ages. Probably sent twice that and only had 2 or 3 replies. One was going well with messages back and forth and suddenly blocked. And none the wiser as to why. Kinda sucks at times

[Ch****]

1 hour ago, CopperKnob said:

You've sent 50 messages and have one person responding, let's be somewhat generous and suggest that half of those 50 you've sent are back and forth with the one person. That means that you've messaged 26 different people in 48 hours, probably more if we're being honest. Which means that you've taken a ***tergun approach because there's no way that you've found that many people you think you may build a connection with so quickly.

Man in order to succeed in getting to date have to be a ***tergun..
Live and on apps doesn’t change much this data.
Our chances are based on the numbers of people we flirt with, the more numbers the more possibilities of success.
Quite a harsh truth, but it’s true, wether you wanna believe it or not.

Man in here and everywhere else can confirm it…

I’m not saying Every man everywhere all the time, off course there are exceptions..

[CopperKnob]

52 minutes ago, Charlie218 said:

Man in order to succeed in getting to date have to be a ***tergun..
Live and on apps doesn’t change much this data.
Our chances are based on the numbers of people we flirt with, the more numbers the more possibilities of success.
Quite a harsh truth, but it’s true, wether you wanna believe it or not.

Man in here and everywhere else can confirm it…

I’m not saying Every man everywhere all the time, off course there are exceptions..

We've had this same discussion numerous times.
What 'data' are you referring to?

[Sh****]

Honestly, it's about quality, not quantity. Review a profile, look to see if you're compatible. See if you have any common ground and use that in your opening message. It's also no good messaging someone just because you like the look of them if you're not what they're looking for. There can be any number of reasons that you don't get a response. It could be that the distance would be unreasonable. Perhaps your age, height, hair colour, body shape doesn't appeal to them. Just because you have sent someone a message, it doesn't mean they must reply. It's certainly harder to pick a winner out of the deluge of messages girls get from thirsty guys, so say something special.

[Je****]

57 minutes ago, Charlie218 said:

Man in order to succeed in getting to date have to be a ***tergun..
Live and on apps doesn’t change much this data.
Our chances are based on the numbers of people we flirt with, the more numbers the more possibilities of success.

This is exactly the problem. Believing that you need to "***tergun" (horrid phrase), and throw out to literally everyone and anyone for a chance of "success".... It's counter productive. By doing this, you're infact pushing away potential partners and interests, as they are just "one of many" and it hasn't been select or interest based off them as a person, but simply a successful catch. 

It won't work, it barely ever works, from what I have seen, and by this not working, people think they have to do it more! 

It's just digging your own grave by doing this, going nowhere.

[ge****]

1 hour ago, Charlie218 said:

Man in order to succeed in getting to date have to be a ***tergun..
Live and on apps doesn’t change much this data.
Our chances are based on the numbers of people we flirt with, the more numbers the more possibilities of success.
Quite a harsh truth, but it’s true, wether you wanna believe it or not.

Man in here and everywhere else can confirm it…

I’m not saying Every man everywhere all the time, off course there are exceptions..

Thing is though the "numbers game" is proven not to work for the vast majority and I hold up the regular "I've sent X number of messages and not got any replies" type threads that appear almost daily at times as evidence.
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Simple fact is the vast majority of men don't "get" how sites like this work and keep repeating the same actions over and over in the hope of it getting them somewhere.
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If more men focused on things like getting their profiles to be appealing, being respectful and courteous, not sending crass messages or worse, and finding an approach that worked for them, then they may not get the meet of their desires, but they'd go a long way to understanding sites like this and feel better about it as a result.
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In turn if the abusive/crass messages, regular dick pics etc disappeared, then perhaps more ladies would hang around rather than deleting their profiles because the deluge was too much.
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Trouble is many men blame everything but themselves for their lack of "success" when if they looked closer to home they would find answers to their problems.

[Ch****]

23 minutes ago, CopperKnob said:

We've had this same discussion numerous times.
What 'data' are you referring to?

Ask any man, who’s not on top of the list..

[ge****]

6 minutes ago, Charlie218 said:

Ask any man, who’s not on top of the list..

I'm not on top of the list (whatever this supposed fictional list is) - so feel qualified to answer....in fact I did a couple of posts up
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I'm more than happy with my experience here, rarely send blind messages, and yet interact with quite a few different ladies
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Presume you'll now say I'm one of the "exceptions" you referred to - well guess what there are numerous men like me on sites like this who are happy with their experience, who chat to women and get responses, the thing is we don't stand out because we don't make a big thing of it, or constantly post threads bemoaning our luck - we do offer advice to people that ask for it, like this thread did, and the majority of the time are either ignored, or told we are wrong by the very people that *are* bemoaning their "luck"

[Sh****]

7 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

I'm not on top of the list (whatever this supposed fictional list is) - so feel qualified to answer....in fact I did a couple of posts up
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I'm more than happy with my experience here, rarely send blind messages, and yet interact with quite a few different ladies
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Presume you'll now say I'm one of the "exceptions" you referred to - well guess what there are numerous men like me on sites like this who are happy with their experience, who chat to women and get responses, the thing is we don't stand out because we don't make a big thing of it, or constantly post threads bemoaning our luck - we do offer advice to people that ask for it, like this thread did, and the majority of the time are either ignored, or told we are wrong by the very people that *are* bemoaning their "luck"

I concur. I am only on top of the list when I use my weekly boost 😂

[4R****]

14 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

I'm not on top of the list (whatever this supposed fictional list is) - so feel qualified to answer....in fact I did a couple of posts up
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I'm more than happy with my experience here, rarely send blind messages, and yet interact with quite a few different ladies
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Presume you'll now say I'm one of the "exceptions" you referred to - well guess what there are numerous men like me on sites like this who are happy with their experience, who chat to women and get responses, the thing is we don't stand out because we don't make a big thing of it, or constantly post threads bemoaning our luck - we do offer advice to people that ask for it, like this thread did, and the majority of the time are either ignored, or told we are wrong by the very people that *are* bemoaning their "luck"

I must be one of the "exceptions" too. My inbox is busy every day with ongoing conversations that have spanned weeks and even months. But then I'm not '***tergun' messaging every woman with some inane copy paste drivel that she's probably seen a hundred times and then getting but-hurt when I don't get a response. 
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I message those I find interesting and strike up a conversation about some shared interest or whatever. Sometimes I get a conversation, sometimes I get a couple of responses before the convo dies out and quite often I get no response at all - but more often than not I end up having a fantastic conversation that moves from subject to subject. 

[Ra****]

4 minutes ago, 4RCH said:

I must be one of the "exceptions" too. My inbox is busy every day with ongoing conversations that have spanned weeks and even months. But then I'm not '***tergun' messaging every woman with some inane copy paste drivel that she's probably seen a hundred times and then getting but-hurt when I don't get a response. 
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I message those I find interesting and strike up a conversation about some shared interest or whatever. Sometimes I get a conversation, sometimes I get a couple of responses before the convo dies out and quite often I get no response at all - but more often than not I end up having a fantastic conversation that moves from subject to subject. 

You also reach out to help with no vibe of expectation or obligation 🥰 * chefs kiss *

[CopperKnob]

1 hour ago, Charlie218 said:

Ask any man, who’s not on top of the list..

Experience or opinion is not fact.
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The people I message the most on here, are...drum roll... men. The same 4 or 5 in fact.
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They aren't top of any 'list' what they did is talk to me like a human being and struck up a conversation about some kind of similarity or a similar line of thought about something.
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If you want to think of it as being on a 'list', I'll go a long with it for a but and say, that the men that are on the bottom of the imaginary 'list' are gonna be the ones who behave like the OP who, whilst highlighting the lack of response to their messages has also provided a lack of response to comments here. The irony