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[Deleted Member]

Interesting topic and some points of view. 

In respect of the lady! Who humiliated the sub for £200 I think we fail to take into account the risk factor. To her safety being the main one. I’m not saying I agree but do understand a little. 

I put a status up few days or so ago as I was starting to read about gifts and stuff and wanted no part of it. So I said so. 

Dont forget too, many of the subs are cheating on their partners and looking for a service. Generally any service is tax deductible lol. 

[Sp****]

I absolutely understand your points about Professionals eyemblacksheep and if people are visiting a professional then they expect to pay for that service but I’m hoping, maybe rather naively, that this site is not about that. Surely this is a community where we can chat and meet people with similar kinks and that may lead to friendship or hookups etc. I think the people we are talking about here aren’t professionals at all . They approach people try to drag them away from this site onto other mediums to chat and then try to take *** (let’s face it it isn’t a tribute unless your meeting) there is no intention to meet just to rinse the person of ***. Most of these claim to be Americans yet none of them can possibly claim English as a first language. They’re clearly fakes and if the site are happy to allow this and not protect genuine members then I think the community and therefore the site will fail. Just my opinion and I think the site needs to re evaluate what it’s purpose is. Is it a genuine kink based community or is it an advert for professionals and scammers??

[ey****]

1 hour ago, Aimil2019 said:

In respect of the lady! Who humiliated the sub for £200 I think we fail to take into account the risk factor. To her safety being the main one.

I believe you arrived driven by someone and left driven by someone - and it was a sub she'd had previous interactions with.

1 hour ago, Aimil2019 said:

Dont forget too, many of the subs are cheating on their partners and looking for a service.

yep - and that is where there's a large market...

1 hour ago, Aimil2019 said:

Generally any service is tax deductible lol. 

it is - and one of the risks to all SWers is a disgruntled client will report them for tax evasion.  Luckily most are already aware and keep records and declare. 

[ey****]

11 minutes ago, Spanksy said:

They approach people try to drag them away from this site onto other mediums to chat

yep - that is pretty much always a form of scam.

11 minutes ago, Spanksy said:

They’re clearly fakes and if the site are happy to allow this and not protect genuine members

I think this site does quite well at keeping on top of fakes and scams.  It's an unfortunate side effect of pretty much all dating based platforms but I've often been impressed at how quick some have been taken down.   

There's also a lot of catfish and impostors on twitter, instagram, etc. and they're much faster to get taken down on here than on there.

13 minutes ago, Spanksy said:

Is it a genuine kink based community or is it an advert for professionals and scammers??

the only kinda thing.  Obviously it's good to keep on top of scammers.   But a lot of those who work professionally should be very much welcomed in as part of the community.  Obviously, to me, there are lines - and there's been assorted topics and threads where ladies with a € profile have offered good advice, comments and contributions and that should be welcomed and encouraged rather than any form of us/them.

 

[Deleted Member]

10 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I believe you arrived driven by someone and left driven by someone - and it was a sub she'd had previous interactions with.

yep - and that is where there's a large market...

it is - and one of the risks to all SWers is a disgruntled client will report them for tax evasion.  Luckily most are already aware and keep records and declare. 

Yes she may have been driven but others may not. I’m talking more in general. I for one wouldn’t take anything but I wouldn’t give anything other than my time and patience lol. I’m just saying we should look at the bigger picture. Scammers oh I can’t eat a whole one but earning a living if it works work it. Tax and all. 

[Sp****]

P.S this is in no way a criticism of you Eyemblacksheep I think you do an incredible job welcoming the newbies and giving advice on multiple subjects!!! Much respect my friend!!

[ey****]

it's OK - there's a general lack of tone - but I took nothing personally and hope nothing I said was taken as such

I think a lot is sometimes easier in a general social setting then online - especially when wires can be crossed  

[Deleted Member]

I'm also on Fet & belong to my local munch & talking to other kinksters at events & online I find Findoms & the like are generaly frowned upon.

[ey****]

online Findom is a modern mystery.

Everyone seems to hate it - yet there's plenty of women do well or well enough.

I know some stories are less honest than others (most people who do well have about 4-5 streams of income : it's not just the Findom side) but yet, there's still someone paying these ladies somewhere.

[Deleted Member]

As I said before, each to their own. I have to admit that if I could charge women for abusing them I'd give up plumbing like a shot ! LOL

[Deleted Member]

Its like most things in life if someones willing to pay then they are going to charge for it. same with sex really. But it can be irratating on sites like these when your looking for someone for a bit of mutual fun with someone who shares your interests, for them to turn round and ask you for *** or a gift. You assume that its like a dating site or finding friends you would'nt expect them to ask you for *** or tributes. altho even then there are places you can pay people for dates or just a friend for appearences. But you can't complain about people who offer a service, as long as people are willing to pay people will take advange. Just be nice to find others who just wanna do it for the pure fun of it and nothing more.

[Deleted Member]

Well said Jess

[al****]

Cause they are not real. It's only business for them

[Phoenyx]

It really depends on what is meant by "tribute".  There is, of course, payment for "services rendered".  Yes Spanksy, ladies did pay for the service, but only after I knew for certain, that their husband/boyfriend was OK with this.  However, Miss Jessie has yet to return, to specify what she meant.  For me, another scenario comes to mind.

In my day, folks were always just giving me stuff, unsolicited---typically leather-related items.  At times, I received things from people, both men and women, that I could not recall ever meeting.  This seemed especially true, when I was running that underground nightclub gig.  I was like the King holding court.  People would come and lay things at my feet.  I never asked for that.  But, it would have been undiplomatic to not accept such "gifts".  So, I ended-up with boxes of stuff that I would never wear or use.

There was one gift though, that truly made me proud.  It was a beautiful "tool belt", from a devoted "contractee".  She had handcrafted it herself.  It fit me, and me alone---it was not adjustable.  I wore it proudly.  However, I never really used it for its intended purpose.  It was a handsome fashion accessory.  But, fumbling for that next item proved too clumsy.  I preferred a small table with a black cloth over it.  There, my implements would be carefully laid-out, like those of a surgeon.  If it was a public demo, I might have an assistant, to hand me the next implement, like a nurse at the operating table.  At the nightclub, I sometimes had to fill-in, if I ran short of guest appearances.  But, I digress...  (Y'all know how I love to tell stories)

[Sp****]

I didn’t say that ladies don’t pay Phoenyx I said that men that aren’t professionals don’t seem to ask for a tribute and my point was based on internet contact not actual meet ups. If the internet ladies that ask for a tribute actually met the person and then asked that would be an entirely different scenario but I would hazard that the proportion of meets that take place with these “Mistresses” are so minuscule as to not even be worth mentioning!!

[Ve****]

For whatever reason they see fit. If it's consensual it's really none of anyone elses business. If a submissive contacts you for play and there is a connection, as long as you make them aware you enjoy tribute as part of your inter personal play, I really don't see how anyone can class that as scamming. They do not have to engage. Whether lifestyle or pro, Findomme and Tribute are valid kinks used interchangeably in dynamics that can enhance the scene and build feeling especially in online play. If it's not your thing just move on. I don't particularly understand *** or *** play for example but I don't attack people on the internet who are into it. It's none of my business what other grown people choose to do with their time. I don't think I've ever seen more people attacked and insulted than those who identify as Findomme on forums. Just no need for it. I've received various tributes in the past in  various ways and it has always built an extra dynamic within our D/S relationship. Luckily I'm not a weak B***h so I really don't care what anyone thinks of that. Have an opinion by all means but don't ever try to step to a grown woman and use insults because you don't understand something. Or because your nose is put out of joint by something or someone. Enjoy your tributes if you like them. And if you don't great, move on. 

[Easygoing-8656]

I’ve been serving the same dom for two years now and she asked me to support her boyfriend also which I’m financially no big deal but didn’t really know if that was common practice or Not but if it is I will 

[Phoenyx]

I never dealt with "***" or "***play" either.  Personally, I wouldn't touch *** or watersports with a ten-foot toilet brush!  But, that is just my personal limit.  I don't hold it against anyone who might like that.  Still, I can't say that I ever encountered anyone who was into that.  As for the appeal behind watersports or ***, I suspect that it might be pheromones.  All mammals have this capability.  It's a way of marking territory and sending messages.  Ever noticed, at a home dinner party, you could always tell who used the restroom last---whether it was a man or a woman?  That's the result of pheromones.

As for ***play, that might be part of the whole vampire fetish.  But, I'm just guessing.  There's probably a lot more behind it.  "Cutting" has really become popular with the millennial crowd.  My former mentor would occasionally do ***play, upon special request.  Charged out-the-ass for it though.  The liability risks were simply too high.  I did know one dominatrix, however, who specialized in ***play.  Not the friendliest person in the world.