All dressed up with Someone to serve

i guess it's Yorkshire Pudding for me

The op asked what a male sub gets out of being humiliated (and i’m talking about *** as a fetish in itself).
i’ve sometimes asked myself what i enjoy about it, and i’m still not entirely sure.
i do remember that one frequent early fantasy for me was bring ***d to date the least popular girls in Read more… our school and suffering humiliating ridicule as a result.
That was back in my naive, less enlightened boyhood, of course.
It wasn’t that i was a particularly disliked kid in school, and i had girlfriends throughout who i found attractive.
Who knows why i enjoy that feeling of humiliating inferiority? Strict mum? Passive dad? Nature? Nurture? A bit of both?

i have had a tendency to tftb in the past, but i am trying to learn how to stop doing it

i agree with You completely there. It is a complex subject with untold subtleties. If i were to publicly announce one of my kinks or fetishes, there would certainly be a few Men who wouldn’t dream of doing something so humiliating, whereas i might regard it as a “reward.”
As for Fem Dom (and i Read more… would also include ***d feminisation) there is a valid argument to be made that any feeling of *** a male sub might feel by being belittled by a Woman could be considered worrying.
Complex with subtleties

And yet, a sense of being “humiliated” can be an essential part of a sub’s make-up. i think it’s probably best to differentiate between vanilla *** and Dom/sub ***

Semantically, yes, I suppose it could be argued that there is an inherent element of “***” in any Dom/sub relationship, but it might not be a primary source of enjoyment or requirement for a male sub.
i was thinking more in terms of a sub for whom restraint or *** might be their need. You could Read more… argue that there is an element of *** in accepting bondage or punishment, but i don’t think it’s the same as the “***” that a sub like me “enjoys”

Why subs enjoy *** will vary from sub to sub. Some might not like it at all

i would be interested to know, too, although generalisations are unreliable.
i enjoy being able to sext & pics myself, although i am wary of fake accounts.
i'm also aware that the etiquette changes with each chat, except on here, where mutual respect appears to be the agreed standard and Read more… accords with site rules

It’s a shame that some people can’t be more civil and respectful. i guess this place serves different purposes for different folk. Unsolicited advice is such a *** to deal with, tho. i feel for you. They were totally out of order

i think for me as a sub, and as an individual in “real life”, there’s a sense of achievement that i’m addicted to when i’ve pleased or made someone happy. I’ve dealt with that in the real world. i need to keep it in check as a sub, though. Fortunately, it’s never been an issue because of the close Read more… emotional bond i had (and still have in one instance) with the Doms i have been submissive to